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Bam
October 21, 2026 02:10 AM
Namaste Kuru, its rather rude to say I skimmed over the article. I suggest you read it carefully. Here is the extract from that article specifically about the guru parampara. """"" Guru Parampara: In our Guru Parampara, Ashwatthama is considered as Maharishi who was initiated in Shakti worship by Mahasrishi Durvasa"""""". If my understanding of English is correct this clearly means specifically in this Guru parampara, the Guru who initiated Shri Ashwatthama is Shri Durvasa. If there is some additional information which Shri Santosh ji told you then thats a different matter. I was saying what is specifically written in the article. There can't be two guru padukas for sva guru. According to the article, it looks like Shri Durvasa is considered in this lineage. That was the point written clearly. And please, if you reply. I request please show some respect for fellow members in the chat. I thought Krishna ji is in contact with Santosh ji so he might know if there's some update. Nothing to deny credibility of your website. Be happy with what youre doing in other website but please be respectful.
Krishna
October 21, 2026 02:10 AM
In the Padma Purāṇā Chapter 14, we come across a verse suggesting that Lord Rudra as Śrī Kāla Bhairava, severed Brahmā's fifth head. This act itself may be interpreted as - "fallen Brahmā", limiting His power in His duties as the Creator. There are also references elsewhere on a Triśaṅku Svarga, meaning an intermediate heaven like realm. Further, there is no harm in discussing Enochian magic or Kabbalah to help people with remedies or even suggesting mantras that may help them fulfill their material desires. Astro or even Vāstu remedies, which have not been suggested so far, are always welcome in the interest of helping people facing difficulties and looking for solutions. Until there is a solid material foundation, it is extremely difficult for normal people to make any headway in spiritual matters in our current times. To be very honest, I am extremely happy with the content we are currently sharing with the world, including the wealth of tantric knowledge shared in the comments section by revered Tīvra and others. I pray that this continues forever. We are not encouraging mantra shopping, but shoppers may find our site useful and gain their information for free. It has always been our intent to education people on mantras and spirituality in general. The former is a steppingstone for the latter, which happens automatically to the sincere practitioners. If you are able to guide and initiate sincere sādhakas, then please do so and may everyone find happiness in their undertakings. You have our goodwill, wishes and above all, the blessing of the Guru Maṇḍala in all your spiritual efforts for the wellbeing of all!
Kuru Sandhyasa
October 21, 2026 01:10 AM
Namaste Rasit. Our aim was always to honor Raviji and his establishment of Manblunder. Our issues here were with the absolute violation of sacred principles and the method of teaching, which are known to be harmful to new sadhakas. Practicing a new mantra every few days, mixing tantra and enochian magic and new age fallen brahma fanfic, all of these things are not conducive for one to genuinely grow. Many things which should not have been encouraged were encouraged by the new leadership of the website and this was not good for anyone. We made clear all of our points and arguments, but there were many people here who wanted shortcuts so badly, that they became upset at the idea that shortcuts are not a reality, and so they fought very hard against us. I believe you were one of those people. But it's in the past and we are willing to help anyone who is genuine at this point now.
Kuru Sandhyasa
October 21, 2026 01:10 AM
Namaste Bam. If you had read the article written by Santosh ji rather than skimming over it, you will see Ashvatthama had approached his Parama Guru ie Parashurama , who had initiated him alongside Rishi Durvasa. Please ensure you take your time to read when it comes to these things. Tantra is not about skimming over texts to look for shortcuts and mantras and entertainment and success will not be found that way. Krishna, I would encourage you to read as well. It is quite literally out in the open.
Kuru Sandhyasa
October 21, 2026 01:10 AM
I do agree with you here Krishna. And despite my efforts to fight for what I believe is right, in the way that exists in my own inherent nature, I do wish the best for you and I appreciate the good in what you have done. You have been an excellent figure in many ways in the past, my issue lies only with the encouragement and propegation of shortcuts and mantra shopping and violation of krama and samaya that has existed on the platform for the last few years.
Bam
October 21, 2026 12:10 AM
Thanks for being so patient with all my questions, Dear Krishna ji.
Bam
October 21, 2026 12:10 AM
Dear Krishna ji, Thanks you for you answer. Yes, I have read the article which Shri Santosh ji wrote. According to that article, the Guru parampara would be Shri Durvasa -> Shri Ashwatthama-> Shri Satyajitanandanatha-> Shri Raviji. In the website uttaranivesha.com, it is mentioned as "From Lord Datta, to Parashurama, to Ashvatthama, to Satyajitanath to Anandanandanath." If the lineage is same, how can there be this difference. This is what I wanted to ask. Sorry, I can understand if its some secret of sampradaya and you dont want to disclose it.
Krishna
October 21, 2026 12:10 AM
I don't manage the other site Dear Bam ji. You would need to ask over there to clarify the doubt. I will personally ask Santosh when I am able to get hold of him and clarify to you. It is also possible that the information we have may have been corrected on the other side. Even if I had a thousand questions to ask Shri Ravi ji, all of them would wither away when I was in his presence. In my opinion, there is no need to go beyond Parameṣṭhi guru, who to us would be Śrī Aśvatthāma, if you are a direct initiate of Shri Ravi ji. If you are initiated by a guru from our sāmpradāya, then you may ask them for the guru pāduka, which would be applicable for the Śrī cakra pūja.
Krishna
October 21, 2026 12:10 AM
All the gurus associated with our site have the adhikāra to provide Śrīvidyā Pūrṇādīkṣā. The krama itself is elaborate and has been extensively performed by Shri Sriram for some eligible sādhakas. Related to Shri Aśvatthāma guruji, this article by Shri Santosh has all the details. He has researched on our Parameṣṭhi guruji thoroughly - https://manblunder.com/articlesview/ashwatthama-saptarishi-8th-manvantara. If you are looking for the full list of gurus from Śiva/Śakti up to Shri Ravi ji, then we do not have that list. But certainly we can take the list of Mānavaugha gurus mentioned in Śrī Vidyā krama and supplement with the known Sva guru and their known maṇḍala for guru, paramaguru, parameṣṭhi etc.
Bam
October 20, 2026 11:10 PM
Hi Krishna, I have a few questions about Shri Raviji’s Kula that I’ve been hesitant to ask until now. Who is the Adi Guru of your lineage? The Manblunder website lists Shri Dakshinamurty, but the new website says it’s Shri Dattatreya, so how can there be a difference? Also, who in your sampradaya is authorized to give Purnabhishek diksha, as I understand that’s for full integration into the Kula? Finally, the new website mentions Parshurama initiating Ashwatthama, while Manblunder says it was Durvasa. How can both accounts exist for the same lineage?
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