Namaste. You are correct. The same mantra is also referenced in the Tripura Kavacam article also. This is the complete japa vidhi for the mantra to kick start Śrī Vidyā and more specifically to overcome all the graha badha (malefic effects of planets and stars on a native's horoscope). Note that Tripura Bhairavi denotes the ascendant lagna in our native charts. If we take Tantrarāja Tantra, then Dakṣiṇakāli sādhana is recommended as a precursor to Śrī Vidyā also.

Thank you for the information Dear Kashik. I have kept it at more manageable levels. But yes, for those looking at opening up all the tattvas and witnessing an incredible change in their lives, the 10 million puraścaraṇa might be more suitable. Those who can contemplate deeper into the tattvas and the maṇḍala śaktis may witness some changes even with 10,000 japa prodding them to continue and grow higher in all aspects of life.

Namste krishna ji can please also answer my previous question regarding Lalita trishati

It is for those who are reciting the Pañcadaśī and its variants. Each letter of the Pañcadaśī is represented in the nāmas of the triśati. I do not know the other details that you are referring to. It is quite clear and well known that this stotra is only for the advanced Śrī Vidyā sādhakas practicing these higher mantras. The same applies to the Śrī Lalitā Sahasranāma as well.

Namaste Tivra Ji, you had given us the wonderful practice of MA Tripur Bhairavi Ashtottara Shatanamavali a while ago, in that Phalashruti I think it says that one who chants it regularly after worshipping Ma Tripur Bhairavi through Panchamakara , will become like Ganesha Himself in no time, so my question was, can we chant the Panchakuta MA Tripur Bhairavi mantra and then do the Ashtottara Shatanamavali, and how many times per day is it recommended to chant the mantra/Ashtottara Shatanamavali, pleasen forgive me if this comment comes off as ignorant, I know that the more you chant the better it is, but sometimes excess can be a bad thing too, which is why I'm requesting Guidance Sincerely Tivra JI, please Guide Me, Pranaams

Namaste Ji, I'm initiated to bala can i worship maha tripura bairavi for debt clearance.

Śrī Bālā Tripura Sundarī is a very advanced Śrī Vidyā mantra capable of bestowing immense material and spiritual wealth. The mantra itself requires activation and removal of curses and other impediments, all of which are stated in the scriptures and also presented on the website. Śrī Tripura Bhairavī mantra activates the Śrī Tripura Bālā mantra and is therefore considered a pre-requisite, unless the initiating guru overrides this requirement. My suggestion is to request your guru`s permission and initiation to proceed with the Śrī Tripura Bhairavī mantra.

Thank you, sir, for your reply. I also asked my guru about this, and he advised me not to get distracted from Bala, but to hold firmly to her lotus feet, assuring that my desires will be fulfilled. Additionally, before beginning the Bala mantra japa, my guru initiated me into the Tripura Bhairavi curse removal mantra and instructed me to chant it 100 times. From the next day onward, he asked me to chant it 10 times every day before starting the japa. I also shared with him that this Bala mantra first came to me in a dream a long time ago.

Namaste Tivra JI, Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful insight Tivra ji, Does Ma Pratyangira being in the center also imply that she is the essence of all the 10 Mahavidyas and can provide Wealth like Ma Siddhilakshmi, knowledge like Ma Tara and Ma Matangi, etc?, if possible please answer this question of mine Tivra Ji, Humble Pranaams, may your blessings and Ma Pratyangira's blessings always be upon me.

Sadhak. Think of Pratyangira as the Sun and the Mahavidyas as Rays. But Pratyangira is a Sun that regulates the light of itself and its rays, revealing or concealing. Pratyangira cannot cast its shadows on what is beyond Shodashi (Hadi). Pratyangira has the full power to dominate and oppose anything or force below Maha Saptadashi (that is, practically everything). Even when you reach Shodashi you will still be subject to some restrictions of Pratyangira. There are 9 veils that conceal the true nature of the Soul (the same as finding Maha Saptadashi). There are 9 veils above and 9 veils below. They are the same 9 veils, only projected above and below. Pratyangira, together with the Mahavidyas, removes the 9 veils. Pratyangira, as the synthesis of the Mahavidyas, can remove all 9 alone (but you will pay a high price). Shulini Durga and Vana Durga are at the center of the 9 Durgas (Navadurgas), and Trishakti Chamunda is above and below Shoolini and Vana Durga. Kali (Pratyangira) removes the 9 veils from above; Durga (Shoolini Durga) removes the 9 veils from below. If you want to remove both sets at once, you resort to Shulini Durga first and then Pratyangira, but they will demand a maturity that you may not be able to offer them.

Hello Lorran my centre of worship is Durga and tri Sakti chamunda as my guru is great devotee of maa durga. He has given us short saptashti path and navarana manta. I want to ask how can to use help of mata durga to remove these 9 veils. My guru talks about her in para form so I'm not entirely sure which form of durga my guru worshiped as for me i always think of her in ashtabhuja form. Please help me it will mean a lot i humbly request, eagerly awaiting for your reply. Thank you.

Kashik. The Mantra of Triśaktī Cāmuṇḍā has 9 letters and signifies the 9 veils. She can definitely remove the 9 veils just like Śūlinī, but in a gentler way. Triśaktī Cāmuṇḍā is above and below Śūlinī because she is worshipped by those who are in a loving relationship with the Universe, that is, you do not want to abandon the Universe; you want to be free wherever you are, and nothing is excluded from the Divine Mother. Her Mantra is thus: aim̐ hrīm̐ klīm̐ cāmuṇḍāyai vicce । You should not add anything else to this Mantra. The letter "aim̐" means Sṛṣṭi (Creation); "hrīm̐" means Sthiti (Preservation); "klīm̐" means Saṃhāra (Dissolution); "cāmuṇḍāyai" means Tirodhāna (Concealment); "vicce" means Anugraha (Grace). Special attention should be given to the word "vicce" which literally means to separate, divide and break the 9 veils, the obstacles, the enemies; to reveal the truth in things. Another thing that reinforces the "Pūrṇa" aspect of Triśaktī Cāmuṇḍā is that her Yantra has exactly 64 deities. Caṇḍikā has two meditations: Para and Apara. The Para meditation is as follows: "Shiva, like a corpse, lies down. A trident emerges from his navel. On the three prongs of the trident are three lotuses, representing the śaktis of Icchā (will), Jñāna (knowledge), and Kriyā (action) of the Goddess. Above him is an all-encompassing lotus, upon which the Goddess sits as Para-Vāk (the Supreme Word)." The Apara meditation is as follows: "The Goddess is in union (embrace) with Bhairava, in the center of a circle of Yoginīs. The circle of Yoginīs eternally rotates, symbolizing the worldly experience of the intellect, mind, and senses. By identifying with the center, one becomes the agent of the circle of powers." Her general meditation is as follows: "Then a glorious goddess named Caṇḍikā manifested, whose cosmic form arose from the combined effulgence of all the Devas. She wielded and carried the trident bestowed by Śūlin (Lord Śiva), the discus given by Cakrin (Lord Viṣṇu), the conch offered by Varuṇa, the śakti (spear) given by the God of Fire, the inexhaustible bow and quivers bestowed by the Maruts during the great war, the thunderbolt (vajra) given by Indra, a cup bestowed by Dhanada (Kubera), the great staff of time, Kāladaṇḍa, the noose given by Pāśadhara (Varuṇa), a water vessel offered by Brahmā, a bell given by Airāvata, the sword and shield bestowed by Mṛtyu, a necklace given "By the 'Ocean' and ornaments forged by Viśvakarman. With limbs of radiant splendor, shimmering like a row of a thousand suns, she made all weapons gleam and flash intensely. Resplendent also with other equipment and insignia received from others, the goddess Caṇḍikā, mounted on her lion, launched herself into battle." Now listen carefully to what I am going to say. The side effects of this cutting Mantra of Triśaktī Cāmuṇḍā are avoided by two means: reciting the complete Saptaśatī once for every 1000 recitations of Navārṇa or 10 recitations of Siddhakuñjikā Stotram. My advice is that you do not complicate things too much, for human life is short. Keep it simple: 10 recitations of the Siddhakuñjikā Stotram during the three Sandhyā (Sunrise, Noon, and Sunset). At midnight, recite the Navārṇa 1000 times, or as many as you can manage, for 72 minutes. Reciting the Navārṇa at midnight is absolutely brutal on all your obstacles. And the Siddhakuñjikā Stotram done during the day will cover everything else. But don't make the mistake of reciting only the Navārṇa and forgetting the Saptaśatī or Siddhakuñjikā Stotram. Choose one. If you recite only the Navārṇa, the burning of Karma will obliterate you. Do it correctly and you will have no problems. In time, Triśaktī Cāmuṇḍā will put the 9 Grahas to work in your favor, as well as break through all the lower veils.

Dear Lorran, can worship of Triśakti Cāmuṇḍā through the Navārṇa mantra and the Siddhakuñjikā Stotram, while contemplating Her as Lalitā (Śṛṅgāranāyikā), serve as suitable preparation for safely approaching the worship of Lalitā Mahātripurasundarī (Kādi) and receiving/withstanding Her ānanda later on?

Hello Lorran, can you please reveal/give the link of the siddh kunjika stotram, as there are a few lines that are removed or modified in different sources, also for the Viniyoga of the Navarn Mantra, should we consider Bramha, Vishnu and Maheshwar as the Rishi? or Markandeya?, thank you, Jai Maa,

Thank you Lorran

Thank you very much Lorran for such important knowledge, you have no idea how big impact this is going to have in my life, even i don't know myself, thank you.

Dear Lorran, Before I proceed further with your guidance, I would like to share a few important concerns and seek your advice. 1) I'm suffering from nightfall it this has taken huge toll on my mental, physical health and spiritual progress. Could you guide me on any practices, disciplines, or yogic methods to stop or overcome this? 2). My guru has initiated us various mahavidya mantra and other devta manta. One of being mool beej of devi Saraswati "aim" how do i bring forth full potential of this beeja within myself, especially in terms of learning, knowing, remember, contemplating, understanding, analyzing and creative expression? How to use this beej to awaken the jnani with me for academic growth and deeper spiritual insight? 3. How do i integrate Tripura Bhairavi worshiped with trisakti chamunda? currently I'm at a very delicate stage of life which requires delicate balance aross my life aspect, there is path i need to take but I'm not able to identify its energy. i sense Wrong move or attitude could very badly affect my material and spiritual future which i don't want to regret. As tivra ji mentioned Tripura Bhairavi is very delicate when comes to human life and fulfillment. Can i humbly request for your advice and guidance whatever limited capacity you can give it will really help me beyond words can describe.

Namaste Dearest Tīvra. This is wonderful. I have requested a friend to see if she can paint this picture for easier remembrance! I wanted to ask if the South direction has no representation in this schematic and does Siddhilakṣmī replace Kamalā? Is there a similar representation for the Kālī kula and Śrī Ucchiṣṭa Gaṇapati and Śrī Mahāgaṇapati?

Namaste Dear Lorran. Welcome back! It is wonderful to have you back here! I have a question related to the Veils. Would you be able to please describe the 9 veils and how they relate to the Vidyā tattva associated with the Kañcukas and Malas denoted by Māyā, if there is any relation? If not, what are these veils? Can you please kindly describe them for the benefit of all!

Namaskaram Tivra Ji. Koti koti pranams at your lotus feet. I have been sincerely trying to reach you through various means. I have some important aspects of upasana that I wish to humbly place before you and seek your guidance. There are a few matters that may be more appropriate to share personally. It would be a great blessing for me if I could have the opportunity to connect with you for further discussion. If convenient, kindly let me know how I may reach you. I am also reachable at: praghathiswaren27@gmail.com With humble pranams. Praghathiswaren

Dear Lorran, I am eagerly waiting for your reply. I would be very obliged if you are able to answer my queries please.

I would like to make a humble request from you. Due to bad times and severe enemy issues i tried many mantras on the site. Im from sri lanka and im a lay person. Now in my job and personal life many issues occured. I dont know what to do. Please advice me. Im so helpless. Can i have your whatsapp

Seeking the guidance of a guru in person and accepting their guidance maybe of greater help in your case. You also need to firmly believe that the mantras or stotras or even the attributes are protecting you and have faith in the same. Be strong and let the power of the mantras seep into you. Be a container that absorbs the energy and not a sink that drains the energy. You will certainly be protected if you stay strong and committed to any one practice for a long time. There are no shortcuts and immediate relief measures.

Mnx. Yes, you are correct. The third automatically leads to the fourth. Aruṭperuñjōti is the state of Mahā Saptadaśī (Seventeenth Kala of the Moon). This is also called Aruṭ Cit Jōti. Of the worshippers of Śrī Vidyā, only Śiva and Durvāsa worship her. The Mantra that Śiva used signifies the ascent to Mahā Saptadaśī through Ṣoḍaśī, but when you reach Mahā Saptadaśī you automatically access another, more inner light called Aruṭ Tat Jōti (fourth stage of Bhakti), and then return to Mahā Saptadaśī and remain there with the knowledge you obtained in the more inner light and remain connected to it. That is why Durvāsa worships Mahā Saptadaśī alone. Shiva added Ṣoḍaśī before Mahā Saptadaśī in his Mantra because this Mantra signifies the moment when the devotee is still ascending.

Hello Lorran. I want to ask are you the same Lorran who had posted back in 2021 if yes, were you able to find Vana Durga saptashati. Thank you for your answer.

Dear Lorran , are there any deities who are higher than arutperunjothi ? Are there stages of consciousness beyond the 17th stage?

Namaste Tivra ji, Lorran. I'm greatful to you for guiding in past few years, in my Spiritual journey. Thanks a lot for this wonderful supreme knowledge. Please continue guiding us always.

Thank you Dear Prince. The mantra itself is way beyond my comprehension and understanding. Hopefully someone will come along and explain the significance of the mantra. The kūṭas mentioned in the mantra seem to refer to the previous bīja mantras if I am not mistaken.

I would suggest checking stotranidhi or sanskritdocuments.org for stotras. Some variations always exist between scriptures and traditions and one can accept what is passed down through their guru lineage.

I would suggest going through Ḍāmara Tantram, Uḍḍāmareśvara tantram etc for Yoginis. Mantra Maharṇava also lists these mantras. There are many publications that reference them as well. There is a lot more caution suggested for these mantras and probably for that reason we have not published any of them till date. Please do not practice them without active and trusted guru guidance.

I checked it.. Can I ask how to remove all bad karma, previous birth sins by chanting mantra. Which God / Goddess is suitable for fast sins, bad karma burning / remove?

Hello vishu, the fastest mantra is hadi panchakshari for cutting karma as said by venerable Tīvra ji he has given even more effective practice related to this mantra for non initiated I'm quoting him "Sit in a comfortable place and at any free time, close your eyes and focus on the center of your forehead (not between the eyebrows, but in the middle of the forehead) and recite the Śrīvidyā Mantra worshipped by Śiva: "hasakala hrīm̐ hasakahala hrīm̐ sakala hrīm̐ hasakala hasakahala sakala hrīm̐." As you recite, imagine a particle of brilliant light with the white of lightning and golden hues. Around this white particle with golden hues, imagine seven belts (circles) in the following sequence, from outermost to innermost: black, blue, green, red, gold, white, and the last one is multicolored, combining several colors. In the first recitation, you imagine penetrating the secret door at the bottom of the Ājñā Chakra. In the second recitation, you see the particle of light with golden hues. In the third recitation, you see the seven veils surrounding this particle, with the colors I mentioned. In the following recitations, you imagine each of these veils shining brighter and disappearing one at a time; with each recitation, you remove one. Then you start the process again from the beginning." You learn more about this in 17 stage of consciousness article on this website.

Namaste Krishna. The dhyāna ślokas of pañca siṁhāsana of the Divine Mother Tripura Bhairavī are expounded in the beginning of the sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth Paṭala of the Jñānārṇava Tantra with the ninth explaining the reality of Ūrdhva Siṁhāsana as Mahā-Tripura-Bhairavī who rules over the other four within the Pañca-siṁhasanamayī as the origin and the ultimate reality. Pūrva Siṁhāsana (Eastern Throne) dhyāna śloka is as follows: उद्यद्भास्वत्सहस्राभां नानालंकारभूषिताम् । मुकुटोज्ज्वलसच्चन्द्रलेखां रक्ताम्बरान्विताम् ॥ २० ॥ पाशाङ्कुशधरां नित्यां वामहस्तकपालिनीम् । वरदाभयशोभाढ्यां पीन उन्नतघनस्तनीम् ॥ २१ ॥ Udyad-bhāsvat-sahasrābhāṁ nānālaṅkāra-bhūṣitām | Makuṭojjvala-saccandralekhāṁ raktāmbarānvitām || 20 || Pāśāṅkuśadharāṁ nityāṁ vāmahastakapālinīm | Varadābhayaśobhāḍhyāṁ pīna-unnata-ghanastanīm || 21 || She shines with the brilliance of a thousand rising suns, adorned with diverse ornaments. Her crown is resplendent with the crescent moon, and she wears crimson garments. She holds a noose, a goad, and a skull-cup (kapāla) in her left hand, beautifully displaying the gestures of granting boons (varada) and fearlessness (abhaya), possessing full, high breasts. Dakṣiṇa Siṁhāsana (Southern Throne) dhyāna śloka is as follows: नानालंकारसुभगां सर्ववैरिनिकृन्तनीम् ॥ ८ ॥ स्रवद्रुधिरमुण्डालिकलितां रक्तवाससम् । त्रिशूलं डमरुं चैव खड्गं खेटकमेव च ॥ ९ ॥ पिनाकं च शरान्देवि पाशाङ्कुशयुगं क्रमात् । पुस्तकं चाक्षमालां च शिवसिंहासने स्थिताम् ॥ १० ॥ Udyatsūryasahasrābhāṁ candracūḍāṁ trilocanām | Nānālaṅkārasubhagāṁ sarvavairinikṛntanīm || 8 || Sravadrudhiramuṇḍālikalitāṁ raktavāsasam | Triśūlaṁ ḍamaruṁ caiva khaḍgaṁ kheṭakameva ca || 9 || Pinākaṁ ca śarāndevi pāśāṅkuśayugaṁ kramāt | Pustakaṁ cākṣamālāṁ ca śivasiṁhāsane sthitām || 10 || Translation: Seated upon the throne of Śiva, she radiates like thousands of rising suns, has the crescent moon on her head, and holds three eyes. She is beautifully adorned, destroys all enemies, and wears a garland of freshly severed heads dripping with blood. In her hands, she holds a trident (triśūla), a hand-drum (ḍamaru), a sword (khaḍga), a shield (kheṭaka), a bow (pināka), arrows, a noose, a goad, a book, and a rosary. Paścima Siṁhāsana (Western Throne) dhyāna śloka is as follows: मुण्डमालावलीरम्यां बालसूर्यसमांशुकाम् ॥ ६ ॥ सुवर्णकलशाकारपीनोन्नतपयोधराम । पाशाङ्कुशौ पुस्तकं च दधानां जपतालिकाम् ॥ ७ ॥ Bālasūryaprabhāṁ devīṁ japākusumasaṁnibhām | Muṇḍamālāvalīramyāṁ bālasūryasamāṁśukām || 6 || Suvarṇakalaśākārapīnonnatapayodharām | Pāśāṅkuśau pustakaṁ ca dadhānāṁ japatālikām || 7 || Translation: Glowing with the soft radiance of the morning sun, resembling a red hibiscus flower, she looks beautiful with a garland of severed heads and wears garments matching the hue of the early sun. Her high, full breasts resemble golden pitchers. She holds a noose, a goad, a book, and a rosary for chanting. Uttara Siṁhāsana (Northern Throne) dhyāna śloka is as follows: चन्द्ररेखाजटाजूटां त्रिनेत्रां रक्तवाससम् ॥ ५ ॥ नानालंकारसुभगां पीनोन्नतघनस्तनीम् । पाशाङ्कुशवराभीतीर्धारयन्तीं शिवां स्मरेत् ॥ ६ ॥ Japākusumasaṅkāśāṁ dāḍimīkusumaprabhām | Candrarekhājaṭājūṭāṁ trinetrāṁ raktavāsasam || 5 || Nānālaṅkārasubhagāṁ pīnonnataghanastanīm | Pāśāṅkuśavarābhītīrdhārayantīṁ śivāṁ smaret || 6 || Translation: Meditate upon the auspicious Goddess who resembles a hibiscus and a pomegranate flower. She has a crescent moon nested in her matted locks, boasts three eyes, and wears red clothes. Blessed with gorgeous ornaments and full, elegant breasts, she holds a noose and a goad, while her other hands form the gestures of granting boons and dispelling fear. - Regarding the fifth; Any attempt by myself to map out Her final seat would remain a shallow, incomplete reflection of its true, non-dual essence. To that end, I will request my Guru to write a dedicated, comprehensive article specifically on this matter to be published. My Guru is currently heavily immersed in the writing and preparation phase for the publication of various other vital materials and scriptural commentaries. However, because of the profound importance of Her fifth throne, I will place this request before him, and I am absolutely certain that a definitive, fully authorized exposition will be made available very soon for the benefit of all sincere sādhaka-s. Best of luck to all and I promise I will have news very soon.

Namaste Cintia ji, can you kindly give the website/publication or some information on your Sri Guru and where he/she writes or publishes his writings. It would be very beneficial to read his writing for the spiritual progress. Thanks

Yes dear cintia ji I agree with bam i m too also excited in ur sri guru teaching kindly plss share it with us

Happy Navarātrī to all. May the Divine Mother shower Her profound grace upon every seeker during this Ninth of the auspicious nights. Regarding the recent influx of inquiries concerning the Divine Mother Kubjikā, it is essential to understand the structural context of Her transmission. While Her esoteric power is undeniable, the comprehensive knowledge, viniyoga, and authentic ritual practices associated with the Paścimāmnāya (Western Transmission) are highly guarded secrets. They are strictly safeguarded within Matsyendranath's Nath lineage primarily located in Nepal, as well as a few other secluded traditional pockets. Attempting to construct a sadhana based on fragmented or publicly available texts can be spiritually counterproductive, as these high-potency mantras require precise utkīlana (unlocking) and structural sequence. In light of this, it was heavily requested by many people and sincere spiritual seekers that an authentic forum and platform be provided to bridge this gap. Acknowledging this collective longing, the senior sādhakas of our lineage have launched a dedicated digital archive and forum called Uttara Nivesha. This platform has been established in compassion to share verified knowledge, preserve the traditional śāstras, and provide a structured framework to help sādhakas manifest their true spiritual potential. Those with a serious interest in pursuing these higher transmissions may look into the resources provided there. Jayati Śiva-Śaktyaikyam!

Thankyou Cintia Ji, for your valuable help, this resource will truly help in keeping these traditions and knowledge alive. Just a small question ji, you mentioned the knowldege of Pascimamnaya is heavily guarded, isn't it time to let down the guard a little bit and trasmit the vidya to genuine seekers with correct tapo shakti to learn it rather than keeping it in family lineages which makes these Vidyas go extinct due to lack of people to hold onto to this Vidya? We have already observed this with many such Vidyas in the Bharat varsh including the great Kashmir Shaiva sampradayas which have gone extinct mostly except few in broken lineages, due to invasion and lack of more people in the sampradaya. This is my humble question and I am not intending to hurt anybody's sentiment or belief, if felt please accept my humble apologies

Namaste Cintia. Happy Navarātrī to all. May the blessings of the Guru Maṇḍalā be upon you, Kuru, Herodion and Santosh at all times. Wishing you all the best and may sincere sādhakas benefit with the resources provided by the new website!

Namaste and happy Navaratri Cintia, like to thank you for sharing the link to the new Site. Excited by the news, I logged into the Site and honestly got confused. I believe I won't be the only confused person who logs on to the new Site. I hope you can clarify my confusion and thereby prevent future confusions that might arise by other seekers. So far the biggest contributors to manblunder have been Ravi V., Krishna and Tivra. At least since I joined manblunder... In one of my previous inquiries to you, I mentioned about forces in place whose aim is to discredit and/or destroy manblunder. In your response you acknowledge that you were fully aware of this agenda. From what I know this started when Ravi V. ji was still alive and we're not necessarily talking about one particular group whose main intention is to shutdown manblunder, more likely several groups at different times. The latest incident still fresh in memories is the orchestrated attack by Kuru and Herodion towards Krishna ji and Tivra ji. Don't get me wrong please, neither Krishna or Tivra are Gods beyond any criticism. Back then I asked either Kuru or Herodion (can't remember whom), instead of insults let the ideas crash with each other. My suggestion was to find anything about Tivra's comments and by referring to ancient scriptures why they thought Tivra was wrong. I truly was hoping that this could be a start for a healthy discussion among people who are either already are Gurus or close to that level and the rest of us could benefit from it by learning different perspectives based on lineage and scriptures. Unfortunately that didn't happen and insults continued and Tivra was smart enough not to fall into that trap. I still wish that both Kuru and Herodion had contributed to manblunder's followers the way you do. Anyway when I logged into the new Site, similar to Manblunder I saw a picture of our dear Ravi V, and among the founders of that Site interestingly are both Kuru and Herodion, the same people who tried hard to discredit manblunder. I think you can see why I am confused. Is the new Site put together to build the missing bridge between beginners and advanced Sadhakas or does it have a totally different Philosophy for its creation? I hope you can help me to clarify my confusion, thanks in advance!!

Looks like Manblunder has split into factions now, quite interesting to see what will happen next, but my question is, "is there any proof that the custodians of the Kula have the adhikara to give out diksha?", there is enough proof of Krishna Ji's capabilities and he was the chosen successor , and Tivra ji has helped innumerable people, and is a master of yoga, mantras and yantras and knows the deeper secret of the matrikas, would like to see the others give a vyakhyana on the mahavidyas and their krama or matrika bheda to actually see their capabilities.

Has any custodian reached the siddhi of all the amnayas?, or at least siddhi one mantra?, are their medhasamrajya abhisheka's done?,

There is no split in the organization and we only have good wishes for other sites that wish to follow Shri Ravi ji's ideals and help spread spirituality to all corners of this world. All efforts towards a good cause need to be lauded and encouraged. Also, every sādhaka of Shri Ravi ji is his successor. I am simply an admin amongst few others who manage this site and occassionally contribute articles when I am able to. There are many other articles presented here by Shri Santosh and other gurus and disciples of Shri Ravi ji who at times have asked not to be credited for the posts. Every commenter is also a contributor to this site and adds value. It is our intent that this site and all other spiritual sites help alleviate the karmic burden of sādhakas and help them gain success in all their material and spiritual endeavors. To answer your other question, the sāmrājya and medhā dīkṣas are not necessary for self-realization or material success in mantra sādhana. It is definitely something that senior advanced gurus like revered Tivra would be associated with. From my standpoint of view, I do not have siddhis of any mantras, yantras etc. but along with other gurus of this site, we do have sarva mantrādhikāra dīkṣa and guru dīkṣa conferred directly by Shri Ravi ji. I have it from Shri Medhayoga Krishna ji as well and others may have it from other gurus as well. None of us have practiced all the Āmnāya mantras in their totality and it is certainly not practical to do so. Instead, for Pūrṇādhikāra dīkṣitas, the Raśmi mālā krama may be sufficient. For those Pūrṇā dīkṣitas practicing Dakṣiṇāmūrti sāmpradāya, the Ṣoḍhā nyāsas of all the Mahāvidyās need to be practiced on a weekly basis. The upcoming book of Shri Ramesh Kutticad guru ji - śrīvidyā bṛhannyāsa sāgaraḥ has the related information. He is also a master of various kramas including the Daśamahāvidyās, a walking encyclopedia as he is fondly called. Salutations to all gurus and may their blessings be upon us all!

Thank you for your response Krishna Ji, I stand humbled.

Hi Krishna, I have a few questions about Shri Raviji’s Kula that I’ve been hesitant to ask until now. Who is the Adi Guru of your lineage? The Manblunder website lists Shri Dakshinamurty, but the new website says it’s Shri Dattatreya, so how can there be a difference? Also, who in your sampradaya is authorized to give Purnabhishek diksha, as I understand that’s for full integration into the Kula? Finally, the new website mentions Parshurama initiating Ashwatthama, while Manblunder says it was Durvasa. How can both accounts exist for the same lineage?

All the gurus associated with our site have the adhikāra to provide Śrīvidyā Pūrṇādīkṣā. The krama itself is elaborate and has been extensively performed by Shri Sriram for some eligible sādhakas. Related to Shri Aśvatthāma guruji, this article by Shri Santosh has all the details. He has researched on our Parameṣṭhi guruji thoroughly - https://manblunder.com/articlesview/ashwatthama-saptarishi-8th-manvantara. If you are looking for the full list of gurus from Śiva/Śakti up to Shri Ravi ji, then we do not have that list. But certainly we can take the list of Mānavaugha gurus mentioned in Śrī Vidyā krama and supplement with the known Sva guru and their known maṇḍala for guru, paramaguru, parameṣṭhi etc.

I don't manage the other site Dear Bam ji. You would need to ask over there to clarify the doubt. I will personally ask Santosh when I am able to get hold of him and clarify to you. It is also possible that the information we have may have been corrected on the other side. Even if I had a thousand questions to ask Shri Ravi ji, all of them would wither away when I was in his presence. In my opinion, there is no need to go beyond Parameṣṭhi guru, who to us would be Śrī Aśvatthāma, if you are a direct initiate of Shri Ravi ji. If you are initiated by a guru from our sāmpradāya, then you may ask them for the guru pāduka, which would be applicable for the Śrī cakra pūja.

Dear Krishna ji, Thanks you for you answer. Yes, I have read the article which Shri Santosh ji wrote. According to that article, the Guru parampara would be Shri Durvasa -> Shri Ashwatthama-> Shri Satyajitanandanatha-> Shri Raviji. In the website uttaranivesha.com, it is mentioned as "From Lord Datta, to Parashurama, to Ashvatthama, to Satyajitanath to Anandanandanath." If the lineage is same, how can there be this difference. This is what I wanted to ask. Sorry, I can understand if its some secret of sampradaya and you dont want to disclose it.

Thanks for being so patient with all my questions, Dear Krishna ji.

Namaste Bam. If you had read the article written by Santosh ji rather than skimming over it, you will see Ashvatthama had approached his Parama Guru ie Parashurama , who had initiated him alongside Rishi Durvasa. Please ensure you take your time to read when it comes to these things. Tantra is not about skimming over texts to look for shortcuts and mantras and entertainment and success will not be found that way. Krishna, I would encourage you to read as well. It is quite literally out in the open.

I do agree with you here Krishna. And despite my efforts to fight for what I believe is right, in the way that exists in my own inherent nature, I do wish the best for you and I appreciate the good in what you have done. You have been an excellent figure in many ways in the past, my issue lies only with the encouragement and propegation of shortcuts and mantra shopping and violation of krama and samaya that has existed on the platform for the last few years.

Namaste Rasit. Our aim was always to honor Raviji and his establishment of Manblunder. Our issues here were with the absolute violation of sacred principles and the method of teaching, which are known to be harmful to new sadhakas. Practicing a new mantra every few days, mixing tantra and enochian magic and new age fallen brahma fanfic, all of these things are not conducive for one to genuinely grow. Many things which should not have been encouraged were encouraged by the new leadership of the website and this was not good for anyone. We made clear all of our points and arguments, but there were many people here who wanted shortcuts so badly, that they became upset at the idea that shortcuts are not a reality, and so they fought very hard against us. I believe you were one of those people. But it's in the past and we are willing to help anyone who is genuine at this point now.

In the Padma Purāṇā Chapter 14, we come across a verse suggesting that Lord Rudra as Śrī Kāla Bhairava, severed Brahmā's fifth head. This act itself may be interpreted as - "fallen Brahmā", limiting His power in His duties as the Creator. There are also references elsewhere on a Triśaṅku Svarga, meaning an intermediate heaven like realm. Further, there is no harm in discussing Enochian magic or Kabbalah to help people with remedies or even suggesting mantras that may help them fulfill their material desires. Astro or even Vāstu remedies, which have not been suggested so far, are always welcome in the interest of helping people facing difficulties and looking for solutions. Until there is a solid material foundation, it is extremely difficult for normal people to make any headway in spiritual matters in our current times. To be very honest, I am extremely happy with the content we are currently sharing with the world, including the wealth of tantric knowledge shared in the comments section by revered Tīvra and others. I pray that this continues forever. We are not encouraging mantra shopping, but shoppers may find our site useful and gain their information for free. It has always been our intent to education people on mantras and spirituality in general. The former is a steppingstone for the latter, which happens automatically to the sincere practitioners. If you are able to guide and initiate sincere sādhakas, then please do so and may everyone find happiness in their undertakings. You have our goodwill, wishes and above all, the blessing of the Guru Maṇḍala in all your spiritual efforts for the wellbeing of all!

Namaste Kuru, its rather rude to say I skimmed over the article. I suggest you read it carefully. Here is the extract from that article specifically about the guru parampara. """"" Guru Parampara: In our Guru Parampara, Ashwatthama is considered as Maharishi who was initiated in Shakti worship by Mahasrishi Durvasa"""""". If my understanding of English is correct this clearly means specifically in this Guru parampara, the Guru who initiated Shri Ashwatthama is Shri Durvasa. If there is some additional information which Shri Santosh ji told you then thats a different matter. I was saying what is specifically written in the article. There can't be two guru padukas for sva guru. According to the article, it looks like Shri Durvasa is considered in this lineage. That was the point written clearly. And please, if you reply. I request please show some respect for fellow members in the chat. I thought Krishna ji is in contact with Santosh ji so he might know if there's some update. Nothing to deny credibility of your website. Be happy with what youre doing in other website but please be respectful.

Namaste Bam, I can see why that might have been confusing. It should be understood however that, as stated in the article, Parashurama is Parama Guru of Ashvatthama. Ashvatthama may have had multiple gurus in his lifetime, his own father Dronaacharya, Kripaacharya, lord Shiva himself. But, as we know, Parashurama is Parama Guru of Ashvatthama, and also initiated him alongside Durvasa as is stated. It is also known that Sri Dattatreya is the guru of Parashurama , and Sri Dattatreya is considered as Adiguru in our lineage. So with that said I hope it is clear why we say that Parashurama exists in our guru mandala and not Sage Durvasa. Generally, every lineage accepts the role of Dattatreya --> Parashurama in the propegation of Tripura Sundari worship and the foundations of Sri Vidya, as seen in Tripura Rahasya and Parashurama Kalpa Sutra. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings.

Namaste Rasit. I myself did not write those rules, as I myself have the experience that conflict is a great catalyst for growth. I understand this is not the case for everyone however and I have the best wishes for all those involved. With regards to the fallen brahma ideas, you can find them here " https://manblunder.com/articlesview/shri-vishnu-vidyamba-trimsatyakshara-mahamantra " in the comments by Tivra. Rasit, I myself was born into a muslim middle eastern family. I was however very lucky to have continuous experiences from my earliest childhood years which had given me enough clarity on the nature of spirit and reality, that I had never fallen into the indoctrination of Islam. I searched very hard from an early age and had found ways to pursue my inherent obsession with knowledge and tantra. I am sorry for anything you had to endure with your circumstances as I know it could have been terrible. I mean it when I say I have the best intentions, though I do not always regard the soft way as an effective method of approach, I want the best for everyone.

Namaste Kuru and thank you for taking the time to respond. And yes, I was a critic of you and Herodion. I wasn't a fan back then or now, on personal attacks and insults on individuals or their opinions. Just as you made it very clear on your own website that personal attacks and insults won't be tolerated with, which I agree completely. Now let me make a few general statements where more likely than not we align. Honestly no idea how the mentality in India is, I can only speak about my rather narrow experience in the States. Interestingly everyone here seems to understand how long it takes to learn to read and write. However when it comes to Spirituality, there is an immediate expectation for results. To put it mildly not just Tantra, but also other schools of thoughts related to Spirituality are seen by the masses not as a teaching and learning experience but rather as a shortcut to hocus pocus /abra cadabra. And of course it doesn't work. The analogy used on your site, spider creating the web while being at the center, and each of the different threads eventually leading to the same center is how I see manblunder. Every thread is different, meaning everyone's journey towards the Divine Mother is unique. Manblunder publishes many different mantras, and this is where selective mind becomes crucial. If someone jumps from one mantra/deity to another, obviously he is missing the point. However if someone selectively just chooses the one(s) that help him to guide in his journey than that's beneficial. Therefore I personally don't see the published different mantras as a weakness but rather as a strength of manblunder. Can it be dangerous, if someone is careless jumping from one ritual to another especially when the energetic body is weak? Of course, it's dangerous!! That's even the case with a strong physical, mental and energy body. Enochian perspectives? Well let me just share with you how I see it (and I could be 100% wrong). As an Ex-Muslim, on purpose I don't bring up the subject of Sufism. Why? Because, I believe that Hinduism based Tantra is a complete system on its own and doesn't need crutches from Sufism, Kabbalah etc. Fallen Brahma? Honestly wish the search feature on manblunder wasn't this outdated, it's weak and needs an upgrade yesterday. Anyway, I couldn't find Tivra's comment about the fallen Brahma. Makes me wonder whether he was referring to the beheading of Brahma's 5th head by Rudra told in the puranas, which obviously fell. I think you starting a new Site deserves credit for fighting what you believe in. I get always happy when I come across a good Site that can help me with my balance on that thin thread towards the center of the web (creation/existence/Superconsciousness). I guess I am more than lucky to have a Guru who isn't jealous or insecure. I got his permission to learn from any source I feel like that can be useful. Therefore, I truly hope that your initiative will be fruitful and many, many thousands of seekers can benefit from it including me. I don't have the slightest doubt that I can learn from you,and other advanced Sadhakas as long as I am not asked to denounce my Guru whoever he might be.

Namaste Rasit. I must commend your openness. I'm somewhat of a Tivra scholar myself, so I think I can help: https://manblunder.com/articlesview/sri-para-shodasi-rajya-siddhi-lakshmi-maha-mantra This is the start of the Fallen Brahma saga. And here, it is tied to Kabbala https://manblunder.com/articlesview/shri-vishnu-vidyamba-trimsatyakshara-mahamantra And here, we get the killing seal https://manblunder.com/articlesview/problems-encountered-in-our-spiritual-path (use search function for "Brahma") There is nothing inherently wrong with Kabbala or western mystical traditions, but immaturely approaching them, especially from a website that was once dedicated to research of tantra (and not without rich comparisons to the abrahamic faiths either) is not something I would recommend. And to further clarify: I wish no ill will - and like to believe the reverse is true - upon would-be dissidents of Raviji's. My problem has always been with the megalomanic claims and not the person behind them: the sin, not the sinner. I have always been first to claim that Krishna's writings are not without their merits and that he is prompt in solving translation errors, and even that some of Tivra's earlier writing has some modicum of wisdom.

Namaste; I will clarify some things. First of all, the establishment of Uttara Nivesha gives diksha through guru mandala. We have all received purnabhishek to initiate under Raviji's lineage. Santoshji has received this authority directly from Raviji. He is the one who has initiated me into Shri Vidya some many years ago, and you will see that he is the first in line on the custodians page – for very good reasons. Second, it is easy to see why one might consider the efforts shared by me, Kuru and many others as an attack. But it must be understood that our primary concerns have been always pointed at the half-knowledge being propagated in our guru’s temple and never at the teachings of Raviji himself. We prefer to call a spade a spade and to answer anything being pointed our way. This is not the case for Tivra. He chooses to reply with silence whenever we intervene and prefers discussions on topics such as kabbalic seals, people of disputed sainthood, or most recently, twin flames. The mass appeal of these topics is unquestionable, and I cannot blame any seeker with a rightful sense of urgency for desiring immediate fruits. I will agree with the others that one should never forget that there are truly no shortcuts to attainment (outside of shava sadhana). Additionally, a serious shri vidya Sadhak should definitely not look for paths which are not revealed at the guru’s feet who is the embodiment of Devi Herself. It is common for Tivra to promise instant enlightenment or immediately acting killing spells or many other alluring fruit. This sometimes makes people forget their sense and think they can skip asking a guru for shaktipat, despite many authentic lineages – even including our own – offering free diksha. The problem is that a legitimate guru will tell you many things you will not like. They will tell you, for example, that you cannot start directly with Maha Shodashi or Kali or Tara, and that you must repeat a single bija daily for 3 years while doing Yoga and Pranayama before diksha is given for stronger procedures. Such a guru may frustrate you! If you go through with it, you may find that somewhere along the course of these three years you’ve gotten a beautiful body, a sweet spouse and a satisfying job, but you will still hate him for telling you to just chant Ram Ram Ram and not giving you the mantra of the deity you heard about on TikTok! This is no elitism; this is the core of Raviji’s teaching and Shri Vidya: there is no shakti without tapas. Do you know that I’ve received emails from people who have took up mantras from random sources on the Internet and have suffered as a result of it? Some of them even thought that an online stranger, after merely knowing your strongest planet, can recommend you a rahasya Mahavidya mantra only found in the most obscure tantras and also come up with a new paradigm every few months, revealing a new supreme deity to rule them all! Much as it is the adequate way of things for people who play with fire to get burnt, I have redirected every single query to my guru and dispensed advice freely, without judgment. Everyone is free to follow who they wish, but after repeated debates here which have led only to edited comments and avoidance, we felt it necessary to take the action of founding a new refuge for seekers in the name of dharma and the spread of knowledge. Our efforts try to consolidate Manblunder’s original teachings and the wealth of revelations left behind by Raviji, which we have always followed closely and will continue to do so. Everyone is free to comment on writings published on Uttara Nivesha and dissenting opinion is very much welcomed, but our preferred framework will always be tantra, where the only sins are delusion, hesitation and inaction.

Namaste Kuru, Thanks for the clarification on the Guru Parampara. I am questioning this solely for intellectual reasons. Your answer didn't really address my main question. It is clearly written that Shri Durvasa initiated Shri Ashwatthama. Also, saying that every lineage accepts Shri Dattatreya as the propagator isn't correct. Sri Vidya has many sampradayas, like Anand Bhairav, Hayagriva, Dakshinamurty, and Dattatreya. So Dattatreya is limited to specific traditions, not all of them. Dattatreya being the Adi Guru of this lineage is news to me, as Shri Raviji hasn't mentioned it anywhere to my knowledge. Even in the Guru Mandala picture made by Shri Raviji, the first guru shown was Dakshinamurty, not Dattatreya. Regarding Ashwatthama having multiple gurus, I think you're mixing up diksha guru and shiksha guru here. As Sri Raviji has written repeatedly in his articles, one can only have one diksha guru for Srividya, not multiple. Also, there's a contradiction in what you've shared versus the site: on the new website you listed Parashurama as the diksha guru of Ashwatthama, but now you're saying he is the paramguru. There has to be another guru in between if that's the case. You can't have a direct diksha from a paramguru to a disciple without a sva guru, otherwise the paramguru just becomes the sva guru. On parashurama being the guru of Durvasa, These things really depend on the specific tradition. In the Kanchi Kamakshi tradition, Durvasa, who is one of the chief gurus of Srividya and consecrated the Kanchi Kamakshi temple, was initiated directly by Lalita herself through anugraha diksha. There is no mention of Parashurama initiating him in that tradition. Also, in the Trika tradition, they consider Durvasa being initiated by Srikantha Rudra to propagate the knowledge of the Agamas. So whether someone is considered the guru or paramguru really depends on what is held in that specific guru tradition, not on outside references. The same article about this lineage says Durvasa initiated Ashwatthama. So, I think you need to clarify your facts a bit here. Let's just leave this conversation, as there is no use in arguing over references pulled from here and there. I only asked Krishna ji because of the discrepancy in information between the two sites. Ultimately, only Shri Raviji knows the reality.

Namaste Dear Kuru Sandhyasa and Herodion, let us not worry or give too much importance to the "fallen Brahmā". Hinduism and Purāṇās clearly forbid the worship of Lord Brahmā except at certain power spots, which seem to be governed by their own local traditions that allow His worship. The severed head and prohibited worship clearly indicate the "fallen status" of Lord Brahmā. Classics such as Rāmāyaṇa indicate that His own great grandson Rāvaṇa obtained His grace and became the invincible conqueror of all realms. Rāvaṇās ten heads denoting his prowess of all scriptural knowledge that there is! We can interpret the fallen status of Lord Brahmā as suggestions to not ask the Creator for something new, but work with the Preserver Lord Viṣṇu to help alleviate our sufferings with means that have already been provided by Lord Brahmā and to further seek the guidance of Lord Rudra to transform our karmas and lead us towards salvation with His Anugraha, denoted by His fifth head. The severed fifth head of Lord Brahmā may also indicate that nobody is born with complete Anugraha or salvation, but it is something that must be earned through karmic progression. We therefore cannot avoid Lord Viṣṇu or Lord Rudra. The Purāṇās and other scriptures also extol Lord Brahmā as the grantor of the most difficult boons one may seek and mention His sādhana as the most difficult one to perform to earn His grace. From a Śrī Vidyā or a tantric point of view with reference to the Kalaśa sthāpana, we clearly invoke Brahmā kalās along with those of Lords Viṣṇu, Rudra, Maheśvara and Sadāśiva. All the Pañcapretas as they are designated, form the crutches of the sofa bed of the Divine Mother and are Her support base. Further, all of them are permitted for full worship in the Āmnāya krama. Though the worship of Lord Brahmā is prohibited for the general seekers, it is NOT for those following the sādhana of Mahāvidyās. Lastly, even if Lord Brahmā has fallen to a lower realm, then so be it. He is certainly more closer to us that the rest and may we seek His blessings to alleviate us from our misery and gain from His benevolent grace! May the Divine Mother Sarasvatī, the śakti of Lord Brahmā help us in all our endeavors and shape our success. Out of total ignorance, we are finding faults with revered gurus like Tivra, Jothi, Tripuraghna etc, who have all iterated the fallen status indicated above. They certainly know a lot more that we can ever get to and through their immense compassion, they visit us as angels to help us in our spiritual efforts. Let us welcome and pray for their guidance and not dismiss that which we cannot comprehend. May we also attain a similar status so we can realize the knowledge and experience this for ourselves. Finally, let us agree to disagree and as long as I am alive and kicking and managing this site's content, I will help revered sages like Tivra in the highest regard. They are the same to me as Shri Ravi ji.

Namaste Bam. If you look in the article, where it says Ashvattama was initated by Sage Durvasa, just ahead of this, it says Ashvatthama had approached his Parama Guru ie Parashurama , who had initiated him alongside Rishi Durvasa. This is very much in plain sight so I am not sure where your confusion is coming from. Regarding the rest of your question, I would suggest you to educate yourself further on the matter. I dont know of anyone who denies the significance of Datta and Parashurama in the progenation of Sri Vidya, you are the first person who I have heard this from. You are also the first person I have seen unaware that within many of the lineages of Sri Vidya, Nath, and Aghora sampradaya they do in fact consider Dattatreya as Adiguru. I think you are only reading very surface level information on the internet, this is not a reliable thing to do.

Namaste Herodion, thank you for taking the time to put the links together. I will go over them as if I am preparing for an exam. It seems like that there might be an overlap with some of the shared concerns as well as differences. Here's my main concern, many Tantric lineages disappeared overtime for different reasons, and some lineages don't have all the manuscripts/scriptures anymore. Some of the reasons for loss of knowledge still exists today. Like keeping knowledge hidden within the family lineage or just a small group hoarding zealously sacred texts. Yes some info cannot be shared with the main public, at the same time using this as an excuse to keep information secret which can be shared with the public is another mistake. Then there's the commercialization of Tantra; the more you pay the more you learn and thereby the illusion of belonging to an elite selected group. Both of these approaches hurt any tantric lineage and not just Srividya. What else? Diluting authentic Tantra with other spiritual systems where you end up with a hybrid system God knows what they are. These are all serious problems we are facing nowadays Worldwide, and we need to be aware of that. However the solution to protect Tantra is not to crawl to the deepest depths of a cave to keep it hidden. The only way to ensure future generations can benefit from Tantra is to make it more accessible and not less to sincere seekers.

Krishna, it seems very deceptive for you to reference Tivra, Jothi, Tripuraghna etc all as separate individuals giving credibility to the same idea. You know very well that they are all the same person. With regards to all of these ideas of fallen brahma, which you are adamantly defending with much different points than your revered sage had made, our point remains. The ideas you are pushing are not helpful and conducive for a spiritual seeker to gain life changing results from sadhana. What you have been pushing for on this platform for a while is all just blowing in every direction for entertainment and gratification, with nearly zero focus on the foundations of actual sadhana. And a massive encouragement toward shortcut methods like some great secret mantra or kaballah magic. And yet it is a hill you will die on. Why not make an effort to do better? You compare Tivra to Ravi ji, this makes my heart sink, and with good reason. I hope you learn from your mistakes

Dear Kuru Sandhyasa and Herodion, you and I are interpreting the comments of revered sages like Tivra completely opposite. A literary scholar may interpret the Śrī Rudram as an adulation of the king of thieves, while a learned scholar may interpret that as a call to remove incessant material wants and desires and direct the attention inward for spiritual ascenscion. Regardless of the interpretation, it is still a prayer to invoke Lord Rudra and the sincere devotee may ultimately obtain His grace. In my opinion, you are more devoted to the teachings of these sages than I am and I salute your dedication and effort in gathering these teachings and imbibing them as per your understanding. Certainly you are far more blessed than I am! We both are seeking the same thing and our paths are different. I do sincerely pray and hope that you succeed in your endeavors and become great gurus whose teachings will benefit mankind today and for the years to come! Finally, I am not trying to be deceptive and I honestly feel that the persons I referred to, may hold similar views, but are different. If you find the comments here entertaining, then so be it. I am glad that they are serving some purpose!

I wish you the very best Krishna

Namste kuru sandhyasa and krishna ji, will it be possible to publish mahavidya tara khadgamala as well shri raj shyamala devi khadgamala. Thank you.

Namste krishna ji and kuru ji, i would also like to pitch in regards to fallen brahma, i think the fallen brahma story very well match with leela shri krishan when lord brahma in his doubt kidnap sakhas of shri Krishna who represents 4 pillar of dharma so shri krishna himself took form of 4 pillar of dhrama as well as position of brahm dev in brahmalok. If you look closely it can be seen as a divine leela of shri krishna to show us the upcoming difficultly and things that will happen in future i.e is kaliyuga also shown through 5 arrow and pandav story. Coming back to fallen brahma this story closely resonate with Jesus who very closely associated as avatar of krishan, as also said by tivra ji, is currently the ruler of our bhurloka.

Namste kuru sandhyasa ji and krishna ji, what is the use of dighbandh mantra, i know it is used for protection to lock the directions and protect ourselves from harmful entity. Can dighbandh mantra be recited daily before nitya pooja or only during sadhna ?. Can i use this cidhambara dighbandh mala mantra link: https://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_shiva/chidambaradigbandhanamAlAmantraH.html. thank you for your answer.

Of course Rasit, hoarding texts out of selfish interest or greed actively harms tantra as a phenomenon and this is not to be encouraged. Texts should be, for the most part, circulated. There are indeed texts - I would include most authentic Yamalas here - which should be kept from public view or ritually restricted, but this is a minority. We must also not forget that rahasya is capable of self-reinforcement, texts are coded by nature (these are not however safety guarantees), and it is ultimately the lila of higher beings that guides or misguides seekers always. Our core issue is not with spilling secrets. The problem is with irresponsible dissemination and with elevating a mere opinion to the level of dogma. By irresponsible dissemination I do not mean the act of publishing mantras. It refers to promoting the dangerous idea that everyone can self-initiate into mahavidya mantras as a result of Vallalar allegedly attaining light-body in a hotel or as a result of other highly contested claims. There are many mantras which do not require diksha and there are many effective sadhanas outside of japa (even if japa is supreme). Our establishment, for example, has published the six cleansings with in-depth practical instructions as well as exhaustive disclaimers and precautions. Literally flossing the gunk out of your subtle channels through bodily orifices is an idea that's deeply aversive or simply uninteresting to most people. But for those who would be drawn to it, we have the responsibility of presenting the information in a way that minimizes the risk of misinterpretation or side effects. On the frequently encountered motif of guru, I also want to add that all gurus share two very different types of wisdom. There is a great distinction between what a teacher will publicly preach and the particular instructions he gives an individual disciple. All aspiring sages and their followers should be capable of making this distinction. Think of a quintessential bhogi sadhak, whose specific chart, constitution and sadhana let him eat meat or chase skirts, and may even reward him for this. Surely you see why it would be unwise for us to declare publicly that shakti is accumulated through sensory pleasures. If my teacher were to tell me that, I would keep it for myself. I would not publicly credit an avadhuta for having revealed the true meaning of tantra nor invite everyone to be grateful for their revelation. Krishna does not keep these things for himself, and that is where I think he is wrong.

Namaste Kashik. Digbandha mantra can be done at any time, in fact in many traditions it is recommended to do before any type of sadhana. It is not only for protection but also to clear obstacles and ensure wellbeing. I noticed some time ago on the website there was some discussion of Svacchanda Tantra and people had seemed interested in this. It is interesting to note this text itself contains a very long process of digbandha which is said to be so powerful on its own that it will cause a sadhaka to reach all sorts of accomplishments over a period of time. Generally, these are regarded as safe to perform.

This article - https://manblunder.com/articlesview/sri-durvasa-dhyanam, states that Sage Durvāsa is our Para-Parameṣṭhi guru, meaning the guru of Śrī Aśvatthāma. The article dates back to 2020 when Shri Raviji was still with us. It is also possible that Sage Paraśurāma initiated Śrī Aśvatthāma into Śrī Vidyā krama and that maybe the belief held by some. Maybe other direct initiates of Śrī Satyajitānanda, Shri Raviji̍'s guru, can provide more inputs. I personally do not know anyone to further validate this. It does make logical sense to trace the lineage to Sage Paraśurāma and his guru Śrī Dattātreya for the Kādi mata followers, who represent almost the entirety of current day Śrī Vidyā practitioners following the Dakṣiṇācāra paddhati based on the Paraśurāma kalpa sūtras. However, Kādi mata is also referenced in the Kaula treatise of Śrīvidyārṇava tantram followed by Śṛṇgeri maṭha and many other Kaula followers. It should be also noted that not everyone following the Dakṣiṇācāra tradition based on Paraśurāma kalpa sūtras trace their tradition to Sage Paraśurāma, especially those associated with the Śrī Kāmākṣī tradition of Kañcī maṭha.

Namaste dear Herodion and Kuru, first of all like to thank you both for taking the time to respond!! I guess this will be my last inquiry about this latest ongoing discussion, therefore I will touch on a couple of subjects and hope you can clarify them. Before asking my questions ,I am going to repeat some well known facts. Like actions speak louder than words. Basically what it means is in life what matters and counts is what you do and not what you say. When there is a discrepancy, it harms your credibility. On your new Site, you clearly state the ground rules for comments, and caution against personal attacks and disrespect. Don’t you think as the founders and administrators of a new Site, shouldn't you also follow the same rules when any of you are commenting on other forums like Manblunder? Recently Kuru ji, openly accused Krishna ji for being deceptive. Isn't exactly that kind of language you discourage to be used on your own forum when commented? Don't you think neither you or anyone else shouldn't have these kinds of double standards? Kuru ji, gave his perspective why he sometimes uses argumentative language, but words do matter. Is it really so difficult to see that this kind of expressions push masses away instead of attracting them? I truly hope your new Site will succeed and also believe how you represent yourself on and out of your Site will have a direct correlation to your membership numbers. Recently Tivra stated that he will be away for a while. Right after that "Cintia " appeared and with her comments similar to Tivra's comments, which made me wonder whether she belonged to the same lineage like Tivra or not. Nobody truly knows who Tivra is other than the belief of he might be living in Brazil. I don't think it was a coincidence that she chose a Brazilian flag, which subconsciously made people associate her with Tivra or his lineage. With her Tivra like comments, she created credibility before announcing the new Site and then she disappeared once she made the announcement. I sincerely hope she's a real person and not someone else using that alias for an agenda. Because, if that is the case, then this would go beyond claims and literally classify as a deceptive act. Let's lighten up and assume she is for real and will continue to share her expertise both on manblunder and your new Site. Another subject I like to point out, don't you think you don't give enough credit to Manblunder followers and simply assume we can be easily manipulated? Tantra is followed even in India by a very small section of the population. In general people do a lot of research as well as inner soul searching before choosing this path and have an analytic mind. It's my analytical mind that took me from Islam to Tantra. I truly believe that many sincere seekers are at least as smart as I am and more likely even smarter. In one of my previous comments I touched on the subject of selective discerning mind. How does that work for me? Let's talk about the Enochian entities, what are they about? Fallen Angels who lost the grace of the creator. Spiritually speaking lower beings who belong to Abrahamaic religions. Not Tantra and not my cup of tea. If I choose to work with lower beings then Tantra gives me far more choices than any Abrahamaic religion can ever give. What about the "Saint Vallalar"?. I am on the fence here. Kabbalah? Don't even know where to start honestly. Traditionally you must be Jewish and male as well as start to learn Torah and Talmud at an early age, and if chosen start to learn Kabbalah at the age of 40. People like Madonna, Britney Spears claiming to be Kabbalists after reading a couple of highly diluted books about Kabbalah followed by a weekend class given by Yehuda Berg is laughable if not pathetic. So for anyone to assume to practice this or that from Kabbalah to address certain problems is pathetic. And I am certain that the vast majority of sincere seekers are full aware of these misleading traps and won't take it seriously. Long story short, your worries about people on this Site is overly exaggerated and applies only to a small fraction of "New-Age Tantrics ". In my opinion your worries about this New Age fans distracts you from valuable messages and information you can share with the sincere seekers. Please, don't waste your time and energy on these New Age tantrics, and confuse them with sincere seekers. The new age fans you are worried about will be the first ones who will jump ship when a new trend pops up on the sky.

Herodion, kindly please let me know where this claim was made? " Vallalar allegedly attaining light-body in a hotel". I am really curious, and I am highlighting the "IN A HOTEL"

First Rasit, please examine Tamil scriptures and then do deep research into Tirumantram and Thevaram thoroughly. Who told you that, "ArutPerum Jyoti is not mentioned in any of the old scriptures?". Extensively Tirumantram has discussed about the path of "Sanmargam (Way that Vallalar proposed)" and has hints and clues in it. Also, talking about real, actual Tantric scriptural point of view, have you consulted all the scriptures to arrive at this conclusion? I have access to a large portion of the now lost Brhad Vadavanala Tantra, where clearly it mentions the 2nd highest form of Maha Tripurasundari is Jyoti only (MULA is a 14 KUTA VIDYA). and then, Ambal also has given me access to this manuscript called 'Maha Guhyakali Maha Vakya Paranjyoti Nyasa', where Guhykali is meditated as Paranjyoti, together with Sodasa Mahavakyam (16 of them). Now, I clearly agree with you about the New Age stuff and Kabbalah - I think those are really questionable. But please, before commenting about the works of Vallalar, who was a Hindu himself and evolved beyond the classification of that religion and spirituality, I would beg you to do more research, or atleast prepare yourself (learning Tamil, consulting his original works and Tamil Tirumantram and Thevaram), before claiming " is not mentioned in any of the old scriptures", because it is simply just the basics of research ethics. If you wonder if one can transcend concepts such as religion, spirituality, caste and creed, the answer is yes, and only the Hindu faith allows one to do this. You can verify this in the Maha-maha-nirvana samrajya medha diksa process discussed in Brhad Vadavanala and other krama tantras. Vallalar has repeatedly mentioned that 'those pure souls' who are preparing for a better world, are residing in the North, and he might be referring to Nepal (who knows?). Also, I am no way affiliated to Tivra or anyone in this website, I am an independent entity.

Namaste prince, could you please answer my previously asked questions.

Namaste Prince, and thank you for correcting my mistake. Obviously my research wasn't comprehensive enough which led me to a wrong conclusion. You citing scriptures while showing me where I went wrong is the kind of correction I respect. When I am wrong then I am wrong, and thank you again educating me while correcting me!!

Namaste Rasit, I will take the liberty of responding to this comment. Firstly, with regards to the rules of uttara nivesha, as I had said previously I did not write them. Though I do feel constructive discussion should be had, I meant no harm in my comments, any of my comments which have seemed aggressive were aimed only with the purpose of disillusioning people. Secondly, with regards to masses being pushed away, we have no issue with this, as we do not want to attract masses, in fact it is quite the opposite. Our purpose in initially forming was for those silent members of the community who had felt lost and wanted to reconnect with the original teachings. Everything we do is voluntary, and it takes quite a bit of time, we want to make sure we are giving our time to those who are genuine and clear sighted. Thirdly, yes I was the cintia account. I wanted to show you all how easy it is to appear like Tivra and talk like Tivra, it is quite easy and those who have no discernment here will simply praise and worship you. If I could do it and you have formed a lowly opinion of me, what makes you think Tivra is any different? Because they do not break the act? My reason for using the name and flag was of course so as Tivra would see it. This whole thing is very much common sense and not very elaborate, but I hope it has proved a point to you.

Dear Prince, you said what I wanted to say. I really cant comprehend and understand how Kuru ji and Herodion ji can be Raviji's disciple. They have the tendency to punch down whatever they dont understand. Saying bad about Sri Vallar and what not. Even Shri Raviji in his old articles has confirmed Jesus and Prophet Mohammad as a legit path. Also, saints as great as Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa practiced Islam and Christianity and said to have a darshan of Prophet, Jesus and Mother Mary. They are trying to contain divinity to Rupa and nama bheda, which is useless.. Similar to Vallalar, Mahamahescvaracharya Abhinavagupta is also said to have Attained the Body of Pure Light. Lets see them also declining that. Please I request both of them to not make fun of things they can't comprehend. If it doesn't match your world view, please ignore and keep quiet.

Namaste kuru ji, i want to ask another question at the it says "भूर्भुवस्सुवरों इति दिग्विमोकः । " Which roughly translate to " Bhūr Bhuvaḥ Suvaḥ” is the formula for releasing the directional restraints (Digvimoka)." Do we need to release directional restraint? Why? And how to do it.

Namaste Kashik. Yes. This is in fact the same formula invoked within gayatri and many many other mantras as you know. The purpose of this is to have alignment with trilokya, in this way obstacles are cleared. This is not only to do with clearing on all three levels, but to do with the yoga formed when alignment happens with all three worlds in a balanced manner. If we think about what is at the root of all obstacles, they are generally regarded as knots (or restraints as you had put it) caused by previous impressions or accumulated karma. The release of these knots is the act of clearing obstacles. With regards to how to do it, there should be a particular method given with the mantra. As far as I know, in ordinary practice, astra mudra is held or fingers are snapped toward each of the four directions while reciting digbandha mantra. This is done three times. In Svacchanda Tantra for instance, a much more elaborate method is given for the particular process of digbandha which is provided there. I would say to be as precise to the sadhana you are following as possible, but if no other method is given, then holding of astra mudra- or snapping of the fingers- clockwise in each of the four directions 3 times is standard practice.

Namaste Kuru ji, hats down, I know what you mean and you proved your point!!

Namaste Dear Prince. This is precisely the reason why heavily guarded treatises must be made available to the general public for research purposes and for gaining greater clarity. The publicly available literature outside of Tamil Nadu does not reference Vallalar's philosophy. There is still ongoing research on Tirumantiram and other Tamil literature expounding on tantras. To be honest, not much is known of Vallalar outside of Tamil Nadu and his teachings are now finding attention amongst research scholars unlike in the past. I recently met an elderly person who advised me to abandon everything I do and focus only on Vallalar's teachings. I believe, we should therefore welcome perspectives from all sources, whether these are negative or positive. Just the way the rays of light beyond the horizon dispel the darkness of night, let knowledge reveal the Truth and dispel ignorance! I certainly look forward to getting more perspectives and information that you can share with us. I am still backlogged at this point and will keep my promise of publishing the material you have previously provided to us. Once again, a very big thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the information you continue to share with us!

Dear Krishna ji, this is what I have been saying from the start. I respect and love Sri Parshurama. But for this lineage specifically, it was written that Sage Durvasa initiated Sri Ashwatthama. That's why I have been doubting the credentials of Kuru ji's and Herodoin ji's website from the start. If they were given purnabhishek by Shri Raviji. He would have surely tell them about the Guru Parampara. The lineage of Sri Dattatreya and Sri Parshurama mentioned in the new website is mentioned by many other Sri Vidya lineage and is easy to know from some other source apart from Shri Raviji. Thank you for bringing this into light.

Dear Kashik, please focus on the Caṇḍī mantra and Śrī Durgā Saptaśatī that has been initiated to you by your guru. Complete the Puraścaraṇā diligently and then proceed on to other mantras. Ensure that you are following the recommended Pañcāṅga procedures for this mantra.

Jayanth shared an email from Shri Ravi guruji that clearly enlists Śrī Durvāsa Mahaṛṣi as the guru of Śrī Aśvatthāma. The guru of Śrī Durvāsa is Śrī Paraśurāma. Shri Ravi ji lists Śrī Dakṣiṇāmūrti as the guru of Śrī Paraśurāma in line with Samayācāra and Dakṣiṇācāra traditions. The Kaulācāra traditions attribute Śrī Dattātreya as the Ādi guru and the guru of Śrī Paraśurāma and this is further validated in Tripura Rahasya. Curiously, the expansive Dakṣiṇāmūrti Saṃhitā and the concise Paraśurāma Kalpa Sūtras, the de-facto Śrī Cakra pūjā manual, are considered essential texts of Śrī Vidyā. The PKS is part of the Datta Saṃhitā, which probably is lost or hidden. The three traditions of Śrī Vidyās attribute the primary Ṛṣis to Hayagrīva, Ānanda Bhairava and Dakṣiṇāmūrti. Dattātreya does not figure in this list even though he is regarded as the Ādi guru of Kaula traditions by many Ānanda Bhairava is the primary Ṛṣi of Dakṣiṇācāra tradition and also followed by many Kaula traditions that I am aware of. Hayagrīva could be the Ṛṣi of Hādi vidyā as the Śrī Cakra used in His tradition does not contain the three circles. Dakṣiṇāmūrti is the primary Ṛṣi of the Uttara kaula traditions and the Śrī Cakra has ten āvaraṇās or sixteen based on the lineage.

This seems to be very much cherry picking and out of context. If it is stated Parashurama is the parama guru of Ashvatthama and also the guru of sage Durvasa, and if it said they had both initiated Ashvatthama into shakta worship, what is the point of still arguing fervently to say that Durvasa is the guru of Ashvatthama and not Parashurama? Parashurama would still be his guru or above in the guru mandala. And secondly, dakshinamurti is not a human incarnation. Dattatreya is the physical guru of Parashurama and this this is universally accepted.

Respected Prince. I am new to Arutperunjoti. Can you please say the exact places in Tirumantiram that speak about Sanmargam?Also, can you please give the links/access to the tantras that you have mentioned, along with the location of your said details, so that I can independently examine them myself? You also mentioned the revered Thevaram. Is arutperunjoti refereneced there, albeit indirectly? If so, please let me know its exact locations. It would be a great opportunity for me to learn more about Arutperunjoti. Thank you.

I am going to interject briefly here. Regardless of the difference of opinions, thank you to Krishna for being respectful in the discussion. With regards to guru mandala in the parampara, I am not going to reveal what was spoken to me directly, as I believe that is sacred and not something to show off or argue. I realize now why some things are kept lesser known with regards to this, so they are not thrown around in the public. I would like to once again state that Uttara Nivesha is meant for those who have an alignment with the old foundational teachings. The goal is ultimately to be oriented around this and form a system which helps sadhakas to maintain a structured, foundationally strong lifestyle and spiritual practice. For those who disagree with our way of things, we encourage you not to come to the platform. Go where ever you feel happy. We have no desire for those who the platform is not meant for. If you disagree with anything we have to say, that is great too. All the best to you. Krishna, thank you once again for your services. As I have said before- and I cannot state this enough- although we have a difference of opinions, and I will fight according to my inherent nature for what I view as right, I still have utmost love and respect for you. I hope all the best to you and to the others. Best of luck

Dear Kuru Sandhyasa, Santosh is a very close friend and guru bhai. Your association with him automatically endears you to me! I am personally very impressed with your spiritual journey and inner struggle. I do yearn to meet you someday and pat you on the back! Continue the chosen path my dear friend and may the Divine Mother be with you at all times! I wish the same for Herodion as well! This website will always belong to Shri Ravi guru ji and we are all serving him in whichever way we can. Our perspectives may differ but our objectives to serve sādhakas will always remain consistent. Please continue to patronize the site and provide your perspectives as you deem fit. 

I feel the same Krishna. And no matter what I may call our with regards to our differing views, you are most certainly a noble soul and I commend you for the much of the good you have done. Perhaps at some point we could discuss our viewpoints directly with each other, as this would certainly be constructive for us both and perhaps help us in our goals to help guide others.

I have given you the key terms of where to find the relevant information in the Tirumantiram. Kindly exercise your free will and do some exploration, maybe you will learn something new. As for Thevaram, read 'Sotrunai Vedhiyan' just the line preceding this, you will find what you are looking for. In the 12 Tirumurai the exact words 'Arul Perum Joti', can be found. But I am not going to spoonfeed you where exactly, its for you to explore and find out. As for the tantras from the North, i am not comfortable sharing them here in a public forum or privately, but you will be able to access them if you put necessary efforts. No one guided me but I still got everything I wanted, with self effort and the right attitude. If I can, you can too.

Namaste Kuru ji, it seems like the dust has settled, now we can go ahead with why we are here at the first place. You had shared with us the four thrones of Tripura Bhairavi, and said that you need to get input from your Guru to explain the fifth throne. I was wondering whether you are willing to share that information with us? Hope the answer is yes, thanks in advance!

Namaste Prince ji, as stated before I was wrong about Saint Vallalar. Your concern about the dangers of misinformation and the masses buying into that is correct. I want you to know that instead of attacking me with insults, correcting me with an educational response was productive. In retrospect I see where I made the mistake during my research, which led me to a wrong conclusion. After your explanations citing scriptures I looked into it again. Interestingly there are many Sites dedicated to Saint Vallalar, including in English. English is not the only language, there are many Sites in Telegu, Tamil, and Kannada as well with free downloadable books and audio. Archive.org has several books about him, and arunperutjothi.com is just one among many other Sites for the English speaking World. As you can appreciate not everyone speaks Tamil, however with all the information out there in different languages, being fluent in Tamil is not a must to explore the wisdom of Saint Vallalar. If there are certain Sites you prefer over others and willing to share that with us, then this would be most welcome!

Dear Rasit, I sincerely, apologize for my critical tone. My point was to only spark the flame of self-sustaining curiosity within you. If I had given you the exact pages where to find the information you were looking for, the chances of you just browsing those pages would be high, and you would not have explored the other content (which may be equally as important). I was only trying to make your learning more fun, explorative and comprehensive. Furthermore, i was really critical because I felt people are looking for validation before accepting the Truth, which in my perspective seems to be very transactional form of learning rather than explorative. Another point is that i would encourage you to learn Tamil before really deep diving into the Sources (https://www.thiruarutpa.org/Thirumurai/sixth/tm) - Starting from Parasiva Vanakkam to Jothi Jothi Jothi Prayer. It is because, no matter how many translations are there, there maybe issues with writers handling content with accuracy and context. If you need help translating portions of the songs directly from the Source, you may attempt to translate them by yourself, and post it in here, we can work out the meaning together by mutual discussion, take care

Namste dear krishna ji, I'm not sure if I'll be able to complete Puraścaraṇā of navaran mantra I've checked it with akathaha chakra and it is showing ari-sadhya. No doubt the mantra is wonderful but at the same time it also have ill effect one of them being breathing problem when i recite navaran mantra so I'm not sure what to do but for now I'm thinking of asking my guru for different variation of this mantra and discussing this matter, well we'll see what devi had planned.

Dear prince is it possible for a human being to become like vallalar , to achieve what vallalar achieved

yes

hello dear Kuru, Tivra would never call Sri Swaprakashananda natha "false guru" and would never advice to call Nrisimha Mahadeva to defend from Sri Swaprakasha.

Namste Prince you still haven't answered my question.

your question being?

Prince, i been doing karnyasa and sadang nyasa of maa guhyakali with siddha kunjika stotra as suggested by jothi agaval. Do you have any advice for me ?. Also in meditation of guhya kali devi is sitting on golden 8 petal lotus with crystalline dimond pericarp can you tell how many hand , what weapons, she holding, how many legs, face and eyes mother guhyakali have in this form. Thank you

you mentioned that u are doing the karanyasa of Guhyakali, but that it is not informative enough because there are three dozen Guhyakali mantra. assuming that you mean the form propiated by Bharata Chakravarti; yes the mantra published here generally seems okay. Regarding siddhakunjika Stotram, I have no knowledge about it, other than that it is highly modified prose from its origins in the Pascimamnaya. Have you tired to derive the syllables one by one ? And also I don’t see how it is specially linked to Guhyakali besides the point that everything is linked to Her. Thirdly, you are asking me to validate the dhyana of Devi that was already published here. It is good.

Namste prince, here is the nyasa link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ik0ypRaeMtOyHxiUDeTwARnjlo60t_yz/view?usp=drivesdk according to jothi ji doing this nyasa before and after increase speech authority and increase manifesting power to quit high level.

Unfortunately this Nyasa is wrong in many parts. It is the first of the Nyasas under “Laghu Sodha Nyasa” of Guhyakali. There should be a Bali given after completing all these Nyasas in sequence. This exact sequence is copied from the published version, in which if you take a look there are uncertainties and wrong bija. If you wish to pursue this incomplete version of Nyasa still, there is a separate Krama given in the Kalikularnava Tantra, which also gives the kulluka vidyA of Guhyakali. But I cannot attest to the efficacy of this. To me, the MahaKala Samhita system is superior when it comes to any Tantra.

Kashik, I have extracted the Shoda Nyasa as per Kalikularnava. If you wish the version from Mahakala Samhita, I will need to extract and derive the Nyasa from scratch and review. This will take me atleast till next year. Use this in the meantime. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U0bTX2eqN3UCijPLGU7LxDDvNjRtLtRl/view?usp=drivesdk

Namaste prince, thankyou for sharing the nyasa with me i want to ask one more thing what is the method of meditating on Anja chakra ? How to do it, how many petels to visualize and in what way, manner? Thank you for your advice and insights!

I fully agree Jayanth, I couldn't have said it better myself. I feel that for the benefit of seekers, this should be encouraged much more. I think it would be a great benefit to viewers of the website if Guruji's original articles and writings are revisited and published on the front page once more. This could even be a weekly thing that would be very easy to do and would continuously remind seekers to be stable and grounded in the foundational knowledge of spiritual practice.

Respected CS, Advaita śāstra propounded by Śrī Ādi Śaṅkarācārya has been applied to various upaṇiṣads and other scriptures and various treatises have been written on this theory, which by itself has no scriptural basis, meaning it is NOT derived from any authentic scriptures but indirectly conceived through Advaitic interpretations of upaṇiṣads etc. Śrī Mādhavācārya and Śrī Rāmānujā have completely debunked the Advaitic theory and have proposed their own dvaitic treatises and reinterpreted the Upaṇiṣads and other scriptures based on their theories that are followed to this day by various schools based on their teachings. No scholar of repute could debunk their theories during their time, similar to the celebrated debate victories of Śrī Ādi Śaṅkarācārya. None of these theories stand ground when compared with the profound Kāśmīra Śaivism - Trika, which also has no scriptural basis but the theory itself has become scripture and the writings of Kṣemarāja, Abhinavagupta and his disciples are the core texts of this philosophy. The Śiva Sūtras of Trika have no parallel in the Śaiva Siddhānta followed in the South of India and both philosophies are radically different. The beauty of Indian philosophy is that there is great depth and variation and room for more. There is no restriction or strict rules to abide with any stream of thought, if it does not sit right with you. We have the freedom to follow or unfollow what appeals or does not appeal to us. From a Śrī Vidyā perspective, the writings and interpretations of the celebrated Kaula guru Śrī Bhaskararāya, such as Saubhāgya Bhaskara - an interpretation of the Śrī Lalitā Sahasranāma, Varivasya Rahasyā - an interpretation of the celebrated Pañcadaśī mantra, Khaḍyotā - an interpretation of Mahāgaṇapati Sahasranāma, Guptāvatī - an interpretation of Śrī Devī Mahātmyam have no scriptural basis but are expositions of the profound thoughts of the celebrated author and these writings themselves have become valued scriptures. More than 95% of the Hindu manuscripts sitting in the libraries are not translated awaiting revelation by scholars qualified to study and interpret them. The tantras themselves are encoded and have various ciphers to decode the same. How do we decide which cipher is most accurate for a mantra when numerous combinations exist? Do we blindly follow what our gurus have followed without them properly examining the combinations and justifying their exclusion? Finally, Sat-cit-Ānanda - the eternal Truth (Sat) is the infinite super-consciousness (Cit) and it can only be experienced and witnessed as bliss (Ānanda). How is it possible to define the infinite and determine exactly what it is? Lastly, let us invite and respect the views of various commenters who forsake their precious time in providing their insights. This website is non-commerical and everything provided here is for the benefit of spiritual seekers. Readers should exercise caution and adopt what they feel is best suited for them and take guidance from a real person - guru and abide by their teachings. The material provided here is for reference purposes and discretion is recommended in the matters of tantra. 

When establishing siddhAnta, one requires hetu or reason and padArtha, lest it be apasiddhAnta.  All Astikas like us agree that the shruti is svatahprAmANya, but different schools arise during the interpretation of these scriptures. For example, there are bhedavAkyas in the shruti, so Shri MAdhavAcArya took these to be literal, or the primary meaning, while Jagadguru Shri Adi Shankaracharya took them to be pedagogical. When either come across verses that may seem, at the surface level, in contrast to their own, they resolve it through upacAra. For example, there is a Western saying that a shepherd is his flock but it is obvious that a shepherd is not many sheep, but the person who takes after them. Since his livelihood and identity is tied to the sheep, it is said so. They are able to do this, and hold their views to be true, because, they have, to the best of their abilities, grounded their bhAShyas and prakaraNagranthas in shruti in such a way that when their interpretation is applied to the shruti, it still remains cogent. When the work is not even implicitly grounded in the scripture, it is treated as kalpanA In the same manner, when the revered BhAskararAyar Makhin, a great scholar he did not simply speculate, but attempted to syncretize Tantra and shruti (eg; Deriving panchadashi from Atharva Veda saṃhitAs). Other scholars like Shri Appaya Deekshithar have also done the same for shaivAdvaita. It would not be fair to say their works have no scriptural basis. I am not trying to argue but we must respect the epistemic foundations, laid by our poorvacharyas and propounded by our Gurus. Hara Hara Shankara Jaya Jaya Shankara _/| |\_

The point I am trying to make is that, whether there is a purported scriptural basis or not and even if the scriptural basis is not universally agreed upon, we should still allow and not dismiss revelations and profound thoughts that sincere sādhakas wish to share on any platform of their choice. The quote from Ṛg veda - "āno bhadrāḥ kratavo yantu viśvataḥ", conveys a prayer for noble, positive, and virtuous thoughts, deeds, and knowledge to reach us from all directions, without discrimination or bias. Something I learnt in high school and is the foundation of Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan. For centuries India has been a melting pot of philosophical discourse with scholars and philosophers from across the world studying at various universities and exchanging ideas. The confluence of ideas must continue and we should continuously evaluate our understanding of the scriptures and update as needed. Anything that is forced upon us, may not be sustainable and stands on weak ground. This is just my personal opinion.

The Durvasa problematic is indeed something worth spending time on at times when scholarship is one's central concern. The formulation of the lineage on the website is not a recently sprung creation of ours, but it is something proven to be most apt for purposes of sadhana, as proven from our practice and personal attunements to the guru mandala. During one of my first comments here on Manblunder, I have claimed my lineage exactly as I have now written: Lord Datta to Parashurama to Ashvatthama to Satyajitanath to Anandanandanath. None of you corrected me then. If the omission of one auxilliary of the parampara remains our only sin, you are free to combat it, and we shall all grow a little wiser from it. But, Krishna, it is well known and attested that Raviji's last contribution to this site dates to 2018 (as explicitly written by Santoshji). Therefore, I don't follow why it would help your case to bring up an article I believe was written entirely by yourself and reminding us that Raviji was still here with us. Some may notice the hesitation in your wording and accuse you of deception. On the topic of Vallalar: I would never insult or disregard a sincere missionary of bhakti yoga who many consider to be a saint and who has unquestionably made the world a better place through his teachings. It was indeed not a hotel, but a rental cottage. I am simply questioning Tivra, who has arrived at the conclusion that the Vallalar mantra coupled with bhakti is an instantly acting panacea which supercharges shakti completely bypassing the need for pranayama or dhyana or nyasa or any other procedures which are generally accepted as necessary, and that, in his own words, "surrender allows the Light itself to achieve what technique cannot". This is part of my broader argument - and our fundamental disagreement - in which I postulate that he is promising various attainments at very quick speeds and through very unorthodox methods which I consider diluted. Raviji promised nothing more and nothing less than what he could give to a sincere seeker giving his all: liberation within this lifetime. What more could you possibly want? He turned the process of diksha from years of guru-shopping and spending thousands of dollars to a simple Skype call. This is unconceivable! Thousands of people from all over the globe have had their lives and fates changed thanks to his unmeasurable sacrifices. How could I ever bring myself to say that someone is even remotely close to his grace? Tens of shaktipats, given daily, for years on end, free of charge, just an endless spring of shakti in sheep's clothing, only for those with eyes to see. I myself see no reason to look for alternatives. If you do, I will not judge, but if you claim to be following in his tradition, I find myself impelled to act and offer my sincere suggestions. This might be perceived as harsh, but I try as much as humanly possible to answer as exhaustively and sincerely as I can and all my efforts are because I am deadly afraid of leaving Raviji's light.

Dear Herodion, you are absolutely right that most articles written from 2018 onwards are authored by me (I believe it to be the grace of Shri Ravi ji and the Divine Mother and hence take no credit for them.) and you and other readers can certainly consider them to be deceptive or non-authoritative, as I am not self-realized like Shri Ravi ji nor do I have any form of siddhi or expertise whatsoever in any subject. As far as the lineage question goes, I have also referred to the email screenshot shared by Jayanth to some of us. I will certainly request him to provide his clarification on it. You may decide on the lineage hierarchy after his input or follow the guidance you have. Honestly, I have not bothered to research on the hierarchy beyond Aśvatthāma parameṣṭhi guruji, but thanks to you and Kuru Sandhyasa as well as Bam, I know a lot more now. Regarding the matter of Tivra, he is the same as the Divine Mother to me. I have stated this umpteen times and will reiterate the same once again. You are on the opposite side of the spectrum and feel that his insights are dubious and I respect your choice. You seem to think of him more often than I do and I consider that as a great merit on your end! Regarding Arut peruñjoti, I do not know if you have had the chance to interact with senior sādhakas who are followers of Vallalar and if you have had the chance to go through the two books that Tivra, Jothi, Tripuraghna and others have recommended previously? Lastly, I pray that the full grace of the Divine Mother be upon you and the site uttaranivesha.com. You, Kuru, Santosh and Janardana are doing a great job and I commend all of you! I also value your comments here and do not seem them negatively.

Respected Krishna ji, with due respect, I believe there is an important distinction between interpreting scriptures differently and proposing a philosophy without a scriptural foundation. Ādi Śaṅkarācārya, Rāmānujācārya, and Madhvācārya developed their philosophical systems through interpretations of authoritative texts such as the Upaniṣads, Bhagavad Gītā, and Brahma Sūtras. Although their conclusions differ, their interpretations are traceable to scriptures regarded as authoritative for centuries. Therefore, describing their philosophies as lacking scriptural basis overlooks the very foundations of their respective arguments. The fact that they interpreted existing scriptures does not make their conclusions merely speculative. Similarly, Bhāskararāya's works cannot reasonably be characterised as lacking scriptural foundations. Saubhāgya-Bhāskara comments on the Śrī Lalitā Sahasranāma, Varivasyā-Rahasya expounds Śrīvidyā, Guptāvatī comments on the Devī Māhātmya, and Khaḍyotā explains the Mahāgaṇapati Sahasranāma. These works engage with established texts and traditions, even where the author offers distinctive interpretations. An interpretation need not be explicitly stated word for word in a source text to be grounded in it. I welcome differing interpretations, as respectful debate helps deepen our understanding. My concern is with metaphysical claims made by certain individuals without scriptural references, supporting reasoning, or any means of independent examination. The existence of untranslated manuscripts or the coded nature of Tantric texts does not, by itself, establish the validity of any particular claim. If a teaching is presented as superior to established traditions, its proponents should explain the textual, philosophical, or experiential grounds for that assertion. Otherwise, how can readers distinguish genuine insight from speculation? Personal spiritual attainment alone should not exempt claims from scrutiny. We can remain open to new perspectives without conflating personal revelations with established scriptural teachings. I believe providing relevant references and explaining the reasoning behind such claims would strengthen the credibility of the knowledge shared on this website.

Respected Krishna ji, I agree that noble thoughts should be welcomed from all directions, and we should never advocat dismissing a teaching merely because it originates outside an established tradition or lacks universally accepted scriptural authority. My concern is not with the freedom to share one's revelations, but with how such revelations are presented to seekers. There is a difference between sharing a personal spiritual experience and asserting that a particular practice is superior to established traditional methods. The latter naturally invites questions about the grounds for such a claim. Openness to new ideas should go hand in hand with critical examination, not preclude it. We can respect a sādhaka's experiences without automatically accepting their interpretations as established truths. Indeed, the rich tradition of philosophical debate in Bhāratavarṣa demonstrates the importance of presenting arguments, examining evidence, and defending one's conclusions. My request is simply that claims be accompanied by their textual sources, reasoning, or an honest acknowledgment that they arise from personal experience. This would encourage genuine intellectual exchange while allowing readers to make informed judgements, rather than asking them to accept claims solely on the authority of the person making them.

Respected CS ji, I totally agree with you that some comments and revelations do not seem to quote or reference the relevant scriptures. In many cases, I found the relevant information at a much later date that directly corresponded with the description provided. Even the entire procedures for some mantras that were explained were available in manuscripts on muktabodha library and other sources. The persons who are expounding these secrets may themselves be under oath to not distribute the information and to honor the secrecy. A couple of stotras that I translated clearly state the dire consequences for revealing them to all and sundry, yet I went ahead translated and published the same. I personally do not value my life and am prepared for all consequences. This may not be the case with everyone and let us honor that. I am certain that whatever is revealed here without the scriptural reference, whether deemed authentic or not, will certainly come to light at some point of time. If the explanation has come, the source or reference will also resurface in time. I have experienced it and believe it to be true. From the perspective of acceptance or rejection, I leave that to the discretion of the sādhaka. Further, the translations that we come across of various accepted scriptures, are certainly revelations or intuitive deductions of the respective authors and the same have been presented to us, which in due course of time have been accepted as scriptures in their own right. These revelations themselves are not scriptural verses linked to other deemed scriptures. It is not that one scripture is the translation of another scripture or is a cipher, although such deductions may be alluded to by erudite scholars. Then there is the question of faith, belief and trust in the words of the gurus and the path they have led and the examples they have set, which invoke the same qualities in us and we proceed further in following the same. Lastly, I don't believe we are forcing anything upon anyone nor are we imposing anything. What is provided is guidance when sought and otherwise it is mere reference and interpretation of what we or the commenters believe is an accurate or alternative interpretation. To some, this may also be some form of  entertainment or deception, which may also be true, especially everything attributed to me or some other celebrated commenters.

Krishna, I would like to remind that the reasons why secrecy is kept is not only to save the spiritual progress of the sadhaka revealing the secret, but also to protect the ones it is being exposed to. When something very powerful is revealed at the wrong point in the sequence of spiritual practice of the individual, it is said to be very damaging to the person who receives it as well as harmful to the one revealing. This accumulates a lot of difficult karma for both parties involved. This is why it is often said only a guru should determine when certain secret knowledge should be revealed to a shishya. While your intentions are noble, we must remind ourselves of the reasoning behind these rules. It is for the good of all involved, and it is considered that only a guru or divine descent should be the cause of revelation of hidden things. It is also said that without proper transmission, these things are wasted because proper understanding cannot exist through the intellect, and the accumulated karma of that as well is harmful to all involved.

Respected Krishna ji, thank you for sharing your experiences and perspective. I understand that certain teachings may be bound by vows of secrecy. I respect that. I have offered these thoughts in the spirit of constructive dissemination of authentic knowledge. Thank you for engaging with my concerns so patiently.

Respected CS ji, I honor and value your perspectives and gained from the conversations. I will continue to serve the community to the best of my ability. Let us take up the challenge and find authoritative sources for many of the revelations shared by esteemed commenters. I sincerely plead and request everyone to aid in this effort and not feel unwelcome to share their inputs or concerns if any. Together, let us rise and enrich ourselves and head towards self-realization.

Namaste Dear Prince, we should certainly adopt the approach to question and seek answers in our pursuit of Truth. The same example set by Śrī Ādi Śaṅkarācārya to debate, analyze and accept that which addresses all queries, makes the utmost sense and is superior. Blind faith or acceptance does not serve the cause of spirituality. We must certainly make note of that and question everything and through thorough analysis and discernment, gain knowledge and enhance our practice. Moving on, what endeared me most to Shri Ravi ji, was his humility to accept criticism and also his sincerity in making every possible attempt to answer and clear the doubts of sādhakas. He never hid anything that he knew and gave everything that he could possibly give. His generosity and compassion is rarely seen in current times. He mentioned several times that he used to spend 18 to 20 hours a day writing articles, answering questions and also initiating every person who sought the same. He led a selfless life to the core and sought nothing but the welfare of all and success in every sādhakas quest to attain self-realization. I wish he had kept some residual karma to be with us for a longer time. The tag line of this site says it all - his mission and the path to self-realization for one and all! I do wish to admit that we had disagreements on several subjects and this itself proved to me that I was interacting with a true guru who had completely dissolved his ego. There were many who abused him when he published the Mahāṣoḍaśī mantra and he allowed all those comments without any bias. I differ from that angle as I am not that tolerant and actively filter out absolute filth and edit some comments as I see fit. On another aspect, revered Tivra may have presented some information that is not palatable to all, but he did so with no ill intent and stressed the difficulty of attaining success in mantras due to the fallen status of our universe as per his revelations. Even if this is not acceptable to many, should we not be grateful and indebted to him for sharing invaluable perspectives and translations of various mantras, meditations and knowledge about Tantric deities, that is generally not accessible to the public? Doesn't this benevolent act deserve accolades and deep reverence to this master?

Namaste krishna ji, definitely agree with you tivra ji contribution aside from western occult is very venerable and enriching to say the least. The secret he has revealed about deity related to Hinduism on top of that too with scientific theology is very much should itself show his accomplishments in tantra marg. I don't understand why people don't see this and fix on criticizing and focusing only on the part where he has talk about western occult. But then i understand everyone can't be adaptable and flexible everyone is beautiful in his own nature of personality wheather rigid or flexible. Another thing i think the reason kuru sandhyasa so adamant on this topic is due quality of lord Bhairav, as he worshiped lord Bhairav who is known as protecter of tantra knowledge and mantra. Might be silly to think like this.

I'm impressed with you Kashik. Feel free to ask me privately any question you wish, I might give answers I wouldn't give to the public.

Namste kuru sandhyasa ji, thank you for your kind gesture i will certainly reach out to you in future if needed.

I ALSO WONNA CONNECT WITH U KURU ; I WAS LOOKING FR U FROM SO LONG ; I ALSO HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS ; IF U CN SHARE MAIL ID ; ALSO ONE OF COMMON DOUBTS WHICH I M FACING FROM SOME FEW DAYS ND NOT GETTING ANY SATISFACTORY ANSWER IS ; WHY IN KAMAKHYA DEVI MANDIR they choose goat/some bird only as bali in kamakhya ; why not lion cub as bali... EXTREMELY CURIOUS TO LOOKING UR ANSWERS AND CONTRIBUTION HERE ON MANBLUNDER KURU ; I READ ALL UR PREVIOUS COMMENTS TOO ; IMPRESSED FROM UR VIEWS TOO MUCH

THAT'S THE EXACT THING INDIRECTLY I WANTED TO EXPLAIN U KASHIK JI FROM SO LONG ; BT BECOZ SOMETIMES MY COMMENTS GOT DELETED AND EDITED I WAS NOT ABLE TO EXPRESS MY VIEW ; I WONNA TELL U KASHIK JI NO TRADITION CAN BE GREATER THAN HINDU TRADITION AND TANTRA AND THERE IS NO LOGIC TO CONNECT SHIVA AND JESUS WHAT TIVRA SAID EARLIER U NEED TO UNDERSTAND DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REAL TANTRA AND COMMENTARY ND PROPAGANDA FROM WESTERNISATION ; HOPEFULLY THIS TIME MY FULL MESSAGE REACHES TO YOU AS IT IS WITHOUT MODIFICATION

Namaste pandya ji, my friend you don't have to worry about this much there is nothing wrong in being curious and enthusiastic about others things, if doubts arise one should verify himself. You need not to worry i slowly have started to see glimpse of our Sanatan Dharma has to be given by guru and devi's grace. Soon everything will become clear by guru and devi's grace. Ohh Glory to you para Ambika glory to you dear sadhguru devi for what immense grace you've bestowed upon me a lowly person. Jai ambe jai Jagdambe.

By your measure, the commentary written in English on this site may also be considered Western Propaganda. I suggest that you and those subscribing to your views consider avoiding this site and follow what suits you best. All that exists is only Śakti, which by definition includes all of us living in the present, those who were in the past and those who will be born in the future. She is equally present in respected Tīvra, you, me and everyone. She is not restricted by any religion or philosophy and encompasses all of them. There is nothing, including nothing, that is not Her. Whether you pray to Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Mahavīra, Rāmā, Durgā, Kṛṣṇa or whoever or are an atheist or rationalist, She is the recipient and all others are Her agents. Please consider this as western based on eastern propaganda and I request that you please avoid visiting this website. The content here is not for you. I suggest the same for all others who subscribe to your ideology and who do not like what is posted here. As regards to editing, I have purposely deleted some objectionable posts from you and others or edited where I felt necessary. No one is stopping you from posting your tantrums elsewhere, but this is not the place where it will be tolerated. The same rules apply to everyone including me and other admins too. Sorry if I have come across as very rude, but it is time to step in. Please note that all articles written after 2018 may be influenced by "Western thoughts" and are probably unpalatable to some. The purpose of this website is to guide people towards self-realization and tantra is deemed as a stepping stone towards this end goal. Advaita forms the core teachings of Shri Ravi ji and I strongly recommend people to focus on the articles related to Spiritual Journey and follow the prescribed path. Tantra, Arut perun joti etc are not endorsed on this site although a few articles, comments etc. may provide some reference material, which is also incomplete. Please follow the instructions from your guru and stop looking for spirituality on websites, books or social media. it should be learnt at the feet of your guru and gained through rigorous sādhana. This is the general recommendations of all tantras. I wish you well and may you find what you are looking for. 

Feel free to reach out to me Pandya, email is kurusandhyasa@gmail.com

PRANAM KRISHNA JI ; THANK U FOR WORKING HARD TO MADE THIS WEBSITE WORKING SO LONG AFTER RAVI JI EXTREMELY GRATEFUL TO YOU ; SECONDLY KRISHNA JI I DIDNT SAID THAT ENGLISH COMMENTS / CONTENT ON THIS WEBSITE EVERYWHERE IS WESTERN PROPAGANDA ;

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Namste krishna ji, can you please also answer my question regarding worship of Atharva bhadrakali mahapragya and consuming non veg due to the location and the culture for example in Bengal non vegetarian diet is the main source of meal in daily life. I am asking this for my friend who has approached me with this question. Thank you

The food we eat directly relates to the guṇas - Sattva, Rajas and Tamas. Considering our own nature and the purpose of the sādhana, appropriate diet may be followed. We should also understand that any food offered to the deity can be considered as naivedya, is prasādam and can be consumed by ourselves. The Balidāna is offered to birds and animals. When the Puraścaraṇa ritual has been taken up as a Saṅkalpa task for a maṇḍala period of 45 days, then many other considerations come into place and sāttvic food consisting of fruits and raw vegetables may be more appropriate in limited quantities.

When time permits, we will consider publishing these mantras. I would strongly suggest finding an able guru to assist you with these mantras and their associated rituals.