Guys, everybody take a deep breath and relax. Remember the name of God and control your anger, Krishna and Heridon, I request you both to please calm down and get into dhyana of Isvara. This is necessary now. Other things can be dealt with later.

Namaste Herodion ji, can you please me tell how tīvra knows all these and mantra of other sampradaya, i never seen someone speak with this clarity as spoken by many realised people, how do they do it so logical and scientific? I haven't seen such clarity even in scriptures. What vidya is tīvra ji and other venerable sadhak are using to give such clear answer and such highly advanced mantra which i think can't be known simply from scriptures. I also been very curious the same question you asked why haven't any attain sadhak talk on these angel, yahwa, Jesus and other gods of west. It always puzzle me maybe because they don't come in our system or maybe other reason idk. But nonetheless i always be curious to know about the truth of world. Hope some day i get to know the truth and how these different religions came in existence.

Dear Herodion, why are you trying to create a toxic environment, everything has a limit, what if TivraJi, or the shakti's that are with him are annoyed enough to show you what they can do?, after all you are the one who is creating an issue here, there is a saying that goes like, "be careful what you ask for, you might get it", what if one of the shakti's of Tivraji finally has had enough and decides to "bite you", after all you are not only hurting Tivraji but also the people whom Tivraji values most dearly, also remember, even a lower entity sadhaka can know your real name and your past, then do you think it is difficult for TivraJi to find out about you?, and do one thing, since you are a true Tantrik then reveal the real name and details about ME let alone TivraJI, then I'll fall at your feet if you succeed hahaha

showing the mantras that you have not realised is killing, how exactly? someone who compiled sharada tilakam, rudrayalamal , brihat tantra saar, would(could) not have possibly realised and awakened all the mantras present in them, that would be practically impossible, and No one is claiming the mantras as a Upadesha, I don't like arguing with your entourage because you people don't like logic, at the most what you do is, cherry pick one or two things and twist the point instead of accepting/trying to understand the comment.

Then stop barking and threatening bite.

Kashik, they themself and others have posted the books from which they have taken this information. It is all book reading and internet research. And also a lot of speculation.

Krishna, you do not know what is a siddha. The person you are speaking about, on December 2023, used one of their many other accounts to join into a conversation and defend themselves as an alternate persona of Jothi. All of these accounts pretending to be different people for what, I wonder. Is this the behavior of a siddha? Is it the behavior of a siddha to also hand out mantras, promote guruless practice, while also promoting Kabbalah and enochian magic and reform on the solid rules of well established tantra shastra? Is it the behavior of a siddha to make themself a public figure and then run away whenever any responsibility or accountability is proposed to them? Tell me this then. You speak of immaturity but you're living in a fantasy land. You yourself have gone mantra shopping from so many lineages for so many mantras all online, and now you present the same thing on a greater scale to uninitiated students who are not accomplishing anything they could be accomplishing from a genuine sadhana. As previously stated, You avoid accountability and responsibility , We called your bluff , You protect someone who's identity is unknown to you yet known to us (how ironic) , You mislead beginners with what you are propagating and promoting , and you even attempted a 'sting operation' which the other admins who were not in agreement with you warned us about. Why have you fallen so far, hm?

I respect differences in opinion. It helps us all learn and progress as sadhakas, which we all are! Thank you Dear Chakravarti. I value your opinion and it is absolutely okay to differ.

Dear Herodion, you and your entourage are contradicting themselves, Tivra ji is a mahajnani, who knows the deepest secrets of the shastras, in fact it was Tivra ji who revealed the unpinning methods and explained the Mantroddhar verses to us, I want to point out this contradiction on one hand you call Tivra Ji a fraud who has hidden agendas, and your team has accused that Tivraji and Agni, Jothi, etc were all the same accounts, and on the other hand, you are afraid that a tantrik(hinted at Krishna JI) will perform Maran on you and use the seal Tivraji has given hahaha, if tivraji is a fraud why are you afraid of a fake seal given by a fake master(acc to you), now one more thing, Tivraji or the manblunder team has claimed/or published a mantra to get a "girlfriend", although even if they did, it wouldn't be wrong, the statement of yours just shows your ignorance of Sri Vidya , and the rashmi mala mantras, because one of those mantras is to get a "wife"/"girlfriend", now let me tell you one more thing, A Real Tantrik doesn't need your name, photo, etc to perform prayogas, your energy signature is enough, because it is deities who do the work not postmen, may god give you wisdom, and whether you like it or not, YHWH and Brahma are the same and Shukracharya is the "God" of the islamic faith, may you find the truth through your Sadhana, and if you haven't progressed enough to know, then maybe you should focus on your own Sadhana instead of trying to be the messiah, and remember TivraJi knows more than what is humanly possible in one lifetime, and Look at the CEOs and founders of all the top companies, you can see jewish dominance because of the grace of their Kabbalaic entities, similar to how Jains in India are very well off due to the blessings of Sri Parshavnath and Padmavati devi, so seeking wealth, love, etc is not a wrong thing as long as you are not hurting anyone else through shatkarma, so please educate yourself a bit more and do some more sadhana. Adesh Adesh

Dear Herodion, You and your like are extremely childish and immature. You probably don't realize that revered Tivra is a great Pratyaṅgirā siddha. Remember this - "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread!". There is also a popular quote in Hindi that you can google - "Haathi chale bazaar, kutte bhauke hazaar" (हाथी चले बाज़ार, कुत्ते भौंकें हज़ार)" which roughly translates to "When an elephant walks in a bazaar, thousands of dogs bark!" I assure you, when there is a paśu, there is also a pāśa. My suggestion to you and your associates has all along been to target me instead of someone of the calibre of Tivra. You cannot approach the regent without tackling the attendant at the gate. I urge you and your friends to please continue your tirade against me and witness the benefits you reap. Lastly, Shri Raviji has entrusted us with some responsibility, and we remain committed to fulfilling the same. I fully acknowledge that it is futile to teach sheep about stars.