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Prince
March 26, 2026 02:03 PM

People often argue for keeping spiritual secrets by comparing mantras to delicate vessels—something so fragile it might evaporate if exposed to too much scrutiny. The logic sounds poetic, and sure, it honors tradition, but it’s really built on an idea of scarcity that doesn’t make much sense anymore. If we want to understand what mantra practice is about, we have to ask: is this “vessel” actually fragile, or have we just been told to treat it as such? The main worry is that if a mantra is revealed, its power fades—like water getting diluted. But that’s not how it works. Mantras aren’t buckets of water; they’re more like coded frequencies. Tradition says a mantra needs a certain vibration, transmitted during initiation, to be potent. The real “key” is in the Guru’s breath and how prepared the student is inside. So if the words get out in public, it doesn’t really cause harm. An uninitiated person reading a secret mantra is just looking at a blueprint for a complicated engine without fuel or the know-how to start it. The engine doesn’t fail—it just doesn’t run. There’s no leak; the cup was empty to begin with. Then there’s this idea that someone with a skeptical or twisted mindset could somehow mess up a mantra’s power. If a mantra comes from the Absolute, it’s indestructible by nature. Thinking that a person’s perception can stain or evaporate divine energy puts the human ego above the Divine, which doesn’t add up. If you imagine the mantra as a perfect sapphire, a million people can stare at it through a window, but they won’t change its structure. Spiritual power isn’t some fragile mist; it’s a sun, burning endlessly. Sure, we might not feel its warmth at night in one spot, but the sun’s core keeps going strong. The real challenge is compassion. The world right now is suffering—a crisis of meaning, mental pain, isolation. Keeping spiritual practices locked away feels like a doctor refusing medicine during a plague because the patients might not take it “properly.” Even if sharing somehow diluted the experience, what’s better? One person reaching full potential alone, or thousands getting a taste of peace? When things are dark, any light helps. And let’s face it: in the age of information, hiding stuff doesn’t protect it—it just makes room for bad actors. When genuine practitioners retreat into silence, they let influencers and charlatans take over, spreading half-truths to whoever will listen. By refusing to talk openly about these practices, traditionalists give away control of the story to exactly the kind of people they’re worried about. Real spiritual strength isn’t about hiding. It’s about trusting in the truth’s ability to endure and spread. If a practice falls apart just because it’s shared, maybe it was never as powerful as we thought. When we trust that the mantras are intelligent and resilient, we move from guarding them to letting them radiate. The vibration finds its own level—it protects itself by its very nature—and in doing so, it offers real help to a world that needs it badly.

Prince
March 26, 2026 02:03 PM

People often argue for keeping spiritual secrets by comparing mantras to delicate vessels—something so fragile it might evaporate if exposed to too much scrutiny. The logic sounds poetic, and sure, it honors tradition, but it’s really built on an idea of scarcity that doesn’t make much sense anymore. If we want to understand what mantra practice is about, we have to ask: is this “vessel” actually fragile, or have we just been told to treat it as such? The main worry is that if a mantra is revealed, its power fades—like water getting diluted. But that’s not how it works. Mantras aren’t buckets of water; they’re more like coded frequencies. Tradition says a mantra needs a certain vibration, transmitted during initiation, to be potent. The real “key” is in the Guru’s breath and how prepared the student is inside. So if the words get out in public, it doesn’t really cause harm. An uninitiated person reading a secret mantra is just looking at a blueprint for a complicated engine without fuel or the know-how to start it. The engine doesn’t fail—it just doesn’t run. There’s no leak; the cup was empty to begin with. Then there’s this idea that someone with a skeptical or twisted mindset could somehow mess up a mantra’s power. If a mantra comes from the Absolute, it’s indestructible by nature. Thinking that a person’s perception can stain or evaporate divine energy puts the human ego above the Divine, which doesn’t add up. If you imagine the mantra as a perfect sapphire, a million people can stare at it through a window, but they won’t change its structure. Spiritual power isn’t some fragile mist; it’s a sun, burning endlessly. Sure, we might not feel its warmth at night in one spot, but the sun’s core keeps going strong. The real challenge is compassion. The world right now is suffering—a crisis of meaning, mental pain, isolation. Keeping spiritual practices locked away feels like a doctor refusing medicine during a plague because the patients might not take it “properly.” Even if sharing somehow diluted the experience, what’s better? One person reaching full potential alone, or thousands getting a taste of peace? When things are dark, any light helps. And let’s face it: in the age of information, hiding stuff doesn’t protect it—it just makes room for bad actors. When genuine practitioners retreat into silence, they let influencers and charlatans take over, spreading half-truths to whoever will listen. By refusing to talk openly about these practices, traditionalists give away control of the story to exactly the kind of people they’re worried about. Real spiritual strength isn’t about hiding. It’s about trusting in the truth’s ability to endure and spread. If a practice falls apart just because it’s shared, maybe it was never as powerful as we thought. When we trust that the mantras are intelligent and resilient, we move from guarding them to letting them radiate. The vibration finds its own level—it protects itself by its very nature—and in doing so, it offers real help to a world that needs it badly.

Kashik
March 26, 2026 01:03 PM

Namste krishna ji and other sadhaks, i have a questions people call this world maya since it doesn't align with blissful nature of god, but if assume this it will mean god is false because how can truth produce deception/illusion because it will mean truth was never truth but at the same time it can also be argued that since something false has come out and since it can't be real just like cow can't give birth to a dog puppy and if it did it false = maya. But then again this maya originated from truth so how could it nature of false so it should be also truth. But it is false. It's very confusing.

Kashik
March 26, 2026 12:03 PM

Very humble pranamam tivra ji and krishna, can you please tell me more about this stotra is it authentic, have you come across it during your research of 10 names of sri mata baglamukhi "ह्ल्रीं बगला सिद्धविद्या च दुष्टनिग्रहकारिणी । स्तम्भिन्याकर्षिणी चैव तथोच्चाटटनकारिणी ॥ भैरवी भीमनयना महेशगृहिणी शुभा । दशनामात्मकं स्तोत्रं पठेद्वा पाठयेद्यदि ॥ स भवेत् मन्त्रसिद्धश्च देवीपुत्र इव क्षितौ ॥. Any reference will be helpful.

Sadhak
March 26, 2026 12:03 PM

Since we are speaking about Technicalities, you must also be knowing that mantras are also full of doshas and curses, there is a dosha called "Moorchita" which translates to "fainted", which happens when no one has awakened the mantra since a long time, in mantra science a mantra is considered an entity too, and it needs to be energised as well, so by revealing it and letting people chant it, it becomes more powerful and potent, which is why collective prayers/sadhanas were done, to be quite frank, you lose the energy of the mantra after revealing it, only if you haven't done an Anushtana/or are in the middle of doing an anushtana, when you have awakened it, the energy stays with you forever, otherwise guru's wouldn't even be able to give out mantras, and that happens because a dosha called "Bhedita" gets attached to the mantra when you reveal it without having the proper privilege to do so(only for mantras you are chanting/want to awaken), but let me tell you one more thing, it also depends on you Guru and Guru Parampara, after a while the Sadhak can decide if they want to reveal the knowledge to the public or not, and the mantra will work for sure, I can personally vouch for that because Raviji made Sri Vidya Mantras open to all, and the mantras work extremely fast and are extremely potent, I can't stress this enough, and it is not like you will "feel better" or whatever , you will literally feel and experience things you didn't even know were possible, and also mantras were written in an encoded form(Mantroddhar) because even though picking up a mantra from a book and chanting it shouldn't work technically, it still does work, Some Mantras in the MKS don't even need to be awakened to start working, one particular mantra needs you to chant it just 3 times and you'll see the result, I will tell you one more story, when Sri Ramanujacharya was a disciple, his guru told him that he will reveal a mantra that will ensure his salvation, and of whomever that chants it, but if he reveals it to the "unworthy" he will suffer in hell for eternity, he takes the mantra, calls all the people of his town, irrespective of caste, creed, etc, and shouts the mantra at the top of his voice, His guru was furious and when he asked him about this, he said "what is the point if I let these people suffer and Enjoy Salvation alone, instead I am willing to suffer in hell on behalf of them if millions get salvation by hearing the mantra to me", such was the kindness of Sincere seekers, and Ravi ji, Krishna Ji, Manblunder team, Tivra JI are in the same category too, The mantras given on manblunder work for the very same reason and the ,mantras in mantra mahodadhi work for the same reason, and the mantras given in MKS work for this reason, because among 1000s of Sadhakas like you and me Kuru Sandhyasa , there will be sincere Devotees like Ravi Ji, Krishna Ji, etc who will create the pathway for generations to come due to their compassion, ADESH.

Sadhak
March 26, 2026 12:03 PM

There are multiple variations of the mantra and the mantra can be done in many ways, if you feel that Swami Lakshmanjoo and his parampara is legit, please go ahead and do it, most important thing for a seeker is consistent practice.

Kuru Sandhyasa
March 26, 2026 12:03 AM

I understand where you are all coming from. With regards to secrecy it may be difficult to comprehend that this is maintained for the best of everyone with regard to mantra sadhana. I will come back to this. Krishna, you have made a very relevant point with regards to guru being very difficult to find. It would be wonderful if this was easy for everyone but it must be up to some capable individuals to establish practices and explanations which are helpful for the masses. These tend to be simple and safe practices, but they are often underestimated and dismissed as being weak or soft when this is not at all the case. Hence sadhakas seek out more powerful or secretive practices. The most powerful result comes from very consistent, dedicated, and Unchanging practice. This is the way to truly help people, and I understand it is something we struggle with in the modern age. I have love for all of you here including you Tivra. Even if I disagree with the actions and I use harsh words it is to get it across that this is how we who are engaged in these extreme and secretive krama view this open spilling of knowledge. Why? Because of several dynamics which affect both the general body of humanity as well as those who may practice these things without the proper order. This in itself is a secret which I should not reveal, but in the current state of things it seems necessary. Any mantra which is regarded as highly secretive in nature can be thought of in two parts. The first part being a vessel which exists within the body of humanity, and the second as the vessel which exists within the body of the sadhaka. As the mantra is uttered and practiced properly, this vessel fills. So long as it is protected with the right conditions. Similarly as it is properly practiced by humanity, siddhas and rishis, the vessel of the mantra within humanity is thought to fill. It is known that if a sadhaka violates secrecy by revealing their own sadhana, or breaking that which maintains their accumulation, their vessel will spill or evaporate, they will have to recover from this fall and will lose a lot of what is accumulated. If they violate secrecy it is the worst, because it is like revealing one's vessel out in the open. The sun will evaporate the water and others may splash around in it. This is not ideological or moral but it is real on the practical and technical functionalities of the universe. If we wish to go against the grain and limitations, there will be complications and there is as little mercy for a sadhaka making mistakes as there is for an animal in nature. Except of course by the guru or ishta devata or nirmanakaya who helps. Moving forward, if a secretive mantra is very publicly revealed, the very vessel which has been prepared for humanity, by many such greater beings reciting the mantra, will be very heavily deteriorated. This is where the mechanism of mantra dilution comes from. Krishna, I believe mantra mahodadhi and mantra rahasya both speak on this but I am uncertain. But I believe you have read these texts as well. The reason is because an unprepared mind will inherently violate the rules which it does not know of. And think of every atheistic, or perverse or abusive mentality mind, which may see the mantra in passing. Or those individuals who utter the mantra without engaging in the full krama. The vessel will spill and evaporate and it will become much less empowered. Meaning those who practice will have to go to far greater lengths than they will otherwise have to. Now coming further more, there is the accumulation of karma for the sadhaka who improperly used a mantra. It is a fact that if you want a fire to start, friction must be focussed in one place. It is also a fact that if you want to create a perfect sapphire, it must be the same substance through and through. And it is also a fact that too many chemicals in one solution will eat eachother alive. I hope you see what I am saying. Not only this, but to accumulate karma of ineffective actions becomes very difficult to break down the road. Still, even a very gentle process if done with extreme consistency and dedication can grant anything one desires. It is far more powerful. Recall that the heat of the sun dissipates quickly at night. Yet the core of the earth remains hot at all times. Even if a practice seems powerful instantaneously, the true results of a mantra manifest months after daily practice. Anything else pales in comparison. I hope this is helpful to everyone. I will speak with my guru regarding public service of compatible practices for the public but unfortunately for now I can make no promises. Please everyone, be consistent and take care with your practices.

Raman
March 25, 2026 10:03 PM

Dear Tīvra, could you please explain the prescribed method for chanting the 32-syllable Ucchista Ganpati mantra?

Amatersu1
March 25, 2026 04:03 PM

Hello I would like to ask about the Sadi Krama of Ma Chinnamasta in Kali Kula and Sri Vidya explanation on how this krama functions and the fruits of Sadi Siddhi . Whatever is possible to receive in knowledge I will deeply appreciate it.

nashmkm
March 25, 2026 04:03 PM

Hi Kashik.I was referencing Tivra's comments dated Dec 16th,Jan 12th..etc He knows very well the biggest hindrance to spiritual progress for many is financial problems and he had given 2 solutions to it First was on Dec 16th dealing with Kabbalah. Then on Jan 16th he had posted about reciting TripuraBhairavi Astothra n had posted a stotra link too. This is a method of dealing with financial issues through Shakta system itself as people might find it hard to practice Kabbalah, an all new, alien to many, method to tackle financial n spiritual problems n blocks. For people like me financial issues are a real big hurdle but with what he provided spiritual n material progress could go hand in hand. Yes,of course i do get that here priority is given to spiritual progress but Tivra had given a solution for ppl like me. My doubt is why TripuraBhairavi Deiv's name was not specifically listed as one among fast acting AdiParaShakti forms in tamasic times. Maybe its because he had mentioned Pratyangira Devi in the list of AdiParaShakti forms ideal for worship in trying tamasic times. Another doubt of mine is, is it ok to recite Shulini Durga Devi Astothra along with TripuraBhairavi Astothra. I found a link that has Shulini Durga Devi Astothra but if someone verifies n says its correct then i could recite it. It would be nice if one could get both spiritual n material progress in life together, which is what TripuraBhairavi signifies according to Tivra ji's words. My words are just abstracts of Tivra ji's words, not exact words of Tivra ji. Url to the astotra https://temple.dinamalar.com/Slogandetails.php?id=1787