"The text I shared was solid—it was well-researched, clear, and did a great job of showing the different sides of mantra sadhana. As adults, I think we’re better off avoiding extreme positions. It makes more sense to look at the facts and different perspectives before making up our minds. Ultimately, how someone chooses to practice is a personal call. Personally, if a Deity is going to penalize me over the 'technicalities' of a chant or how secret I keep it, I will reject the Deity from my life. Frankly speaking, I have never felt any penalties from ANY DEITY. That just means, that all this ‘fear mongering tactics’ are just falsehoods in my experience. And honestly, believing that a string of letters is inherently divine feels like a bit of a stretch. I’ve said my piece.

Various mantra dosha is precisely the reason why mantra should be initiated by guru only. You have answered your own question.

Prince, you say this yet you have said before that you have not even experienced something as foundational as kundalini. If you have never experienced the loss of grace or mantra shakti how can you possibly dismiss this, which is not only attested to within every tantric text and scripture, but experienced by those of attainment. There is no point in remaining in one place and yet thinking you know better than everyone else who has accomplished these things.

Namaste Dear Tivra, mostly when you are explaining a topic before the conclusion you scatter some "Gold Nuggets" during your conversation. One of the gold nuggets mentioned is "Arut Perum Jothi". To benefit more from this mantra, would it be beneficial to either at the beginning or the end to chant Arul? Or is simply chanting the complete Arut Perum Jothi mantra enough, because its essence is Arul anyway? Thanks in advance for your guidance.

this article touches a magical principle, but it is not tantric in nature, and i deeply doubt if it is useful alone, without context. Tantra is a flow of Guru's illusion, Mahamaya itself, unillusory because of the direct Will of Devi - to give sadhaka an illusion above all illusions, that is reflexive to its Source, and that leads to the Source Supreme. aham=idam is not a principle of philosophy, but a great achievement, that is possible through tivra sadhana & Guru anugraham. Guru is not a mentor but God. Ishta Devata is not a good imaginative creation that we make and start believing in; it is a primordial channel for the Will of True Guru, it is Essence of Guru. here is a great difference between the Western Ceremonial approach, that constructs Godforms to manage flows of Power, where good magicians say that gods are not to worship but to work with, and Tantra, which is able only through complete surrender to Guru, through only will to make Guru's "illusion" defeat the illusion of ego, thus having a chance to exit ilusion at all. there is no sence to think about nature of maya, as maya is the very nature of thinking. thank you for reading, and may God bless us with wisdom, if we can hold it.

Thank you so much guruji

Namste krishna ji, tivra ji and other sincere sadhaks, let's assume this world is maya then the whole point of saving it going to lengths by vallar, rishi, saint even devta seems ridiculous, why would a realised being go to para lok for solution to save this world? For example venerable Tīvra ji is going through principal of sri Vidya aham=idam if we understand this what tivra ji is basically trying to saying is I'm going to make illusion real which means false becomes truth which is more ridiculous maya= truth. But if we assume maya to be true from the start it makes sense. Create, sustain, destroy, concealment and revelation which happens a process told by tivra ji, which means maya is on-par with kadi panchdashi and Mantra of maa kamakali. Although world was there for temporary moment nonetheless it was true to say after healing of wound that wound is false since it no longer exists i think it's wrong. What i think is so far what definition and understanding of maya has been understood is totally different than what maya actually is. With aham= idam principal maya with is understood to be illusion became real. So now question arises was maya real or not or was totally something else than what was understood so far or is it something that stands between junction of illusion and reality. What i think maya is not false but rather something misunderstood because to say maya is false means to declare devi is false. I think the nature of maya is being kept hidden same way hadi turiyamba, sadi vidya are kept hidden due to their power and are being told as something non important or not worth. Tīvra ji can you please shed some of your wisdom and insight.

People often argue for keeping spiritual secrets by comparing mantras to delicate vessels—something so fragile it might evaporate if exposed to too much scrutiny. The logic sounds poetic, and sure, it honors tradition, but it’s really built on an idea of scarcity that doesn’t make much sense anymore. If we want to understand what mantra practice is about, we have to ask: is this “vessel” actually fragile, or have we just been told to treat it as such? The main worry is that if a mantra is revealed, its power fades—like water getting diluted. But that’s not how it works. Mantras aren’t buckets of water; they’re more like coded frequencies. Tradition says a mantra needs a certain vibration, transmitted during initiation, to be potent. The real “key” is in the Guru’s breath and how prepared the student is inside. So if the words get out in public, it doesn’t really cause harm. An uninitiated person reading a secret mantra is just looking at a blueprint for a complicated engine without fuel or the know-how to start it. The engine doesn’t fail—it just doesn’t run. There’s no leak; the cup was empty to begin with. Then there’s this idea that someone with a skeptical or twisted mindset could somehow mess up a mantra’s power. If a mantra comes from the Absolute, it’s indestructible by nature. Thinking that a person’s perception can stain or evaporate divine energy puts the human ego above the Divine, which doesn’t add up. If you imagine the mantra as a perfect sapphire, a million people can stare at it through a window, but they won’t change its structure. Spiritual power isn’t some fragile mist; it’s a sun, burning endlessly. Sure, we might not feel its warmth at night in one spot, but the sun’s core keeps going strong. The real challenge is compassion. The world right now is suffering—a crisis of meaning, mental pain, isolation. Keeping spiritual practices locked away feels like a doctor refusing medicine during a plague because the patients might not take it “properly.” Even if sharing somehow diluted the experience, what’s better? One person reaching full potential alone, or thousands getting a taste of peace? When things are dark, any light helps. And let’s face it: in the age of information, hiding stuff doesn’t protect it—it just makes room for bad actors. When genuine practitioners retreat into silence, they let influencers and charlatans take over, spreading half-truths to whoever will listen. By refusing to talk openly about these practices, traditionalists give away control of the story to exactly the kind of people they’re worried about. Real spiritual strength isn’t about hiding. It’s about trusting in the truth’s ability to endure and spread. If a practice falls apart just because it’s shared, maybe it was never as powerful as we thought. When we trust that the mantras are intelligent and resilient, we move from guarding them to letting them radiate. The vibration finds its own level—it protects itself by its very nature—and in doing so, it offers real help to a world that needs it badly.

People often argue for keeping spiritual secrets by comparing mantras to delicate vessels—something so fragile it might evaporate if exposed to too much scrutiny. The logic sounds poetic, and sure, it honors tradition, but it’s really built on an idea of scarcity that doesn’t make much sense anymore. If we want to understand what mantra practice is about, we have to ask: is this “vessel” actually fragile, or have we just been told to treat it as such? The main worry is that if a mantra is revealed, its power fades—like water getting diluted. But that’s not how it works. Mantras aren’t buckets of water; they’re more like coded frequencies. Tradition says a mantra needs a certain vibration, transmitted during initiation, to be potent. The real “key” is in the Guru’s breath and how prepared the student is inside. So if the words get out in public, it doesn’t really cause harm. An uninitiated person reading a secret mantra is just looking at a blueprint for a complicated engine without fuel or the know-how to start it. The engine doesn’t fail—it just doesn’t run. There’s no leak; the cup was empty to begin with. Then there’s this idea that someone with a skeptical or twisted mindset could somehow mess up a mantra’s power. If a mantra comes from the Absolute, it’s indestructible by nature. Thinking that a person’s perception can stain or evaporate divine energy puts the human ego above the Divine, which doesn’t add up. If you imagine the mantra as a perfect sapphire, a million people can stare at it through a window, but they won’t change its structure. Spiritual power isn’t some fragile mist; it’s a sun, burning endlessly. Sure, we might not feel its warmth at night in one spot, but the sun’s core keeps going strong. The real challenge is compassion. The world right now is suffering—a crisis of meaning, mental pain, isolation. Keeping spiritual practices locked away feels like a doctor refusing medicine during a plague because the patients might not take it “properly.” Even if sharing somehow diluted the experience, what’s better? One person reaching full potential alone, or thousands getting a taste of peace? When things are dark, any light helps. And let’s face it: in the age of information, hiding stuff doesn’t protect it—it just makes room for bad actors. When genuine practitioners retreat into silence, they let influencers and charlatans take over, spreading half-truths to whoever will listen. By refusing to talk openly about these practices, traditionalists give away control of the story to exactly the kind of people they’re worried about. Real spiritual strength isn’t about hiding. It’s about trusting in the truth’s ability to endure and spread. If a practice falls apart just because it’s shared, maybe it was never as powerful as we thought. When we trust that the mantras are intelligent and resilient, we move from guarding them to letting them radiate. The vibration finds its own level—it protects itself by its very nature—and in doing so, it offers real help to a world that needs it badly.

Namste krishna ji and other sadhaks, i have a questions people call this world maya since it doesn't align with blissful nature of god, but if assume this it will mean god is false because how can truth produce deception/illusion because it will mean truth was never truth but at the same time it can also be argued that since something false has come out and since it can't be real just like cow can't give birth to a dog puppy and if it did it false = maya. But then again this maya originated from truth so how could it nature of false so it should be also truth. But it is false. It's very confusing.