COMMENTS


Prince
January 26, 2026 01:01 PM

However, the published versions of the MKS do acknowledge this uncertainty and the authors do interpret it as such : So the first 8 limbs this is the formula : gam,jam,dam,Dam,bam,ram,sam,Lam + ka-varga ONLY 8 times across the first 8 limbs The next 8 limbs, this is the formula: (dont put the middle sequence in here) 1) ka-varga + ca-varga ONLY 8 times across the next 8 limbs this solves the 16 vowel positions commonly found in traditional matrika However this is highly unlikely as the couplets will have no impetus then to introduce the 8-class of vargas. Furthermore, in tantra, many things are inferred from ‘examples’ shown in the verses. The next 35 consonants are (ka to Ksa) as per the normal matrika. Just attach the narasimha names (1st 8 + 2nd 8 + 3rd 35 = 51 names).

Prince
January 26, 2026 01:01 PM

So the first 8 limbs this is the formula : gam,jam,dam,Dam,bam,ram,sam,Lam + (cycle through each varga from ka to ha varga) to generate 8 mantras The next 8 limbs, this is the formula: (dont put the middle sequence in here) 1) ka-varga 2) ka-varga + ca-varga 3) ka-varga + ca-varga + ta-varga 4) ka-varga + ca-varga + ta-varga +Ta-varga 5) ka-varga + ca-varga + ta-varga +Ta-varga + pa-varga 6) ka-varga + ca-varga + ta-varga +Ta-varga + pa-varga + ya-varga 7) 6) ka-varga + ca-varga + ta-varga +Ta-varga + pa-varga + ya-varga + sha varga 8) 6) ka-varga + ca-varga + ta-varga +Ta-varga + pa-varga + ya-varga + sha varga + ha varga this solves the 16 vowel positions commonly found in traditional matrika The next 35 consonants are (ka to Ksa) as per the normal matrika. Just attach the narasimha names (1st 8 + 2nd 8 + 3rd 35 = 51 names).

Prince
January 26, 2026 01:01 PM

Correction : I meant 16 vowels and 35 consonants I will now share my attempt at extracting the Narasimha Nyasa portion of the Shoda Nyasa. First there are a few preliminary clues on what this nyasa entails. First of all, we can study the rishi-yadi Nyasa details : ऋषि्जृसिहन्यासस्य हयग्रीवः प्रकीर्तितः । गायत्रीच्छन्द इत्युक्तं नरसिंहोऽस्य देवता ॥ ६३ ॥ बीजानि वर्णा विज्ञेयाः स्वराः षोडशा शक्तयः । विनियोगो नृसिहस्य न्यास एवेति सम्मतः ॥ ६४ । षड्भिर्दर्धिः क्षबीजस्य कराङ्गन्यासमाचरेत्‌ । पुनस्तद्वद्‌ वरारोहे तैरेव च षडङ्गकम्‌ ॥ ६५ ॥. It is said that the deity of this Nyasa is prakriti (rather than Matrika). Therefore only consonants will be used throughout. A counter example of this will be the Virat Nyasa with 51 Narasimha and 51 Kalika-shakti in maithuna; where the deity of the nyasa is Nirvana Matrika (16 vowels and 35 consonants). One may also recall that the vowels are Shiva, while the consonants are Shakti = Prakriti. Furthermore, the verse above this clearly introduces the definitions of the 8 class of vargas : वर्गाः कचटतपाः पञ्च षष्ठो यरलवास्तथा । सप्तमः शषसाश्चापि हठक्षाश्चाष्टमः प्रिये ॥ ६२ ॥. As this list excludes the vowels, we can extrapolate to infer that the Narasimha Nyasa does not involve vowels. I will now write about the exact seeds involved.

Prince
January 26, 2026 06:01 AM

The information you need is in the kamakalakali pranayuktasari mantra.

Sadhak
January 25, 2026 10:01 PM

Hello Prince, yes, kavarga, tavarga, and chavarga, sha varga should be done four times, in srishti, samhara, sthiti and then srishti again ig, I could not understand how to create those mantras my main aim was to extract the 51 names, thank you for pointing this out and guiding me, can you please give me a few points on how the mantra changes for each shakti, and I haven't added the devi nyas because I wasn't very sure of their mantras especially for forms like Ma TripurBhairavi and Ma Nakuli, can you please show us the way revered prince, thank you so much.

Sadhak
January 25, 2026 10:01 PM

YES, Definitely Prince, I agree completely, can you please give us the link/source for the mahakala samhita please? and hopefully sri TIvra Ji will shed some light on this, I am also slightly surprised that this is even way more different from MahaShodaNyasa present in SriVidya as well, Thank you so much Prince.

Prince
January 25, 2026 08:01 PM

The nyasa is a complex rituals for Kāmakalākālī and Guhyakali, and they don’t follow the traditional Vedic nyasa schemes. We can simplify them to our needs and easier understanding, but however, this will not do justice to the instructions from the scriptures or the glory of Devi. I hope all of you understand, that these two goddesses are mind blowing. It’s like anything we have never seen before. This schemes belongs to the Uttaramnaya uttarakaulas. Humbly request Tivra to comment further on this matter. Highly accurate portfolios can be found in national archives of Nepal, with complete nyasa procedure.

Prince
January 25, 2026 08:01 PM

hi sadhak, thank you for your time and effort. however, I will have to comment regarding the accuracy of these mantras (especially the Narasimha Shoda nyasa). There are published sources which do not interpret the MKS accurately and impose Vedic nyasa methods as this nyasa however, this is wrong. The mantra you have suggested is more accurately, the traditional Narasimha Kala nyasa. Let’s take a look at the verses of the MKS (MahaKala Samhita) to derive at the actual mantras of the Narasimha Shodha Nyasa : सबिन्दुर्वर्गमध्यस्थः कवर्गों बिन्दुसंयुतः । क्रमेणानेन देवेशि (वर्णाः) कचवर्गयोः ॥ ६६ ॥ अष्टावृत्त्या भवेन् न्यासस्ततश्चापि निबोध मे । सबिन्दवो हलः सर्वे सृष्टिमार्गेण चैककम् ॥ ६७ ॥ त एव तादृशा ज्ञेयाः पुनः संहारवर्त्मना । सृष्टिस्थितिभ्यामन्तेऽपि न्यासः सम्पूर्ण उच्यते ॥ ६८ ॥ note that complexity of these verses, that there are repeating consonants done in various cyclic manners. Another point is only groups or individual consonants are used! No vowels are mentioned anywhere in here. I have derived the formula for this nyasa. I will publish it soon. From what it seems, the rest of the Nyasa mantras look accurate, however the Shakti Nyasa has also some errors, that being for the Shakti nyasa, the mantra of each Devi changes, as per the MKS. However in your scheme there is only one mantra that repeats itself all over the body parts. Thank you and take care

Sadhak
January 25, 2026 11:01 AM

Dear Mahasadhak, MahaTantrik, Mahaprajna sri Tivra Ji, we know that you are not just a simple sadhak, you are someone who knows the most intricate details of this path, from esoteric, obscure, rarest of Nepali Samhitas, to Adi Yamalas, to Yoga and Kriya, to surya and chandra vidyas, Grace Shakti and western occult like kabballah and to be honest it is a surprise that a single person can learn so much in one life time, you are the embodiment of compassion and kindness and Divine mother herself would not reveal so many things so easily, thank you so much, Tivra ji, can you give us a proper structure to reach our true potential, also I believe Shabar mantras are still unlocked?, aren't they Tivra Ji?, can you shed more light on using Shabar Mantras and the system created by the Naths, kabbalah, seifirot, Guru Dattatreya and Kartavirya upasita Kamakala kali mantra and their respective Siddhis and then progressing properly through utkilana, sanjivana, MahaShodanyasa, etc, is it really true that the person who does MahaShoda Nyasa for six months continuously becomes the embodiment of Shiv himself? are the stories of people performing seemingly impossible tasks like turning a metal rod into dust, or someone's clothes catching fire because a sadhak who had performed Nyas regularly was asked to them, etc really true?, please guide us on these matters, I know that you will guide us on these matters eventually, and your silence also sometimes implies that certain things are better hidden (like how kamarajakuta can be used to unlock Kadi, etc), But still out of my ignorance and my confidence in your compassion I have the audacity to ask you these things, Trahi Maam Tivra Ji.

Sadhak
January 25, 2026 10:01 AM

Dearest and most respected Krishna Ji, I have made a basic effort of extracting the names of narasimha, bhairava, kaamdev, dakini and shakti's and creating their respective mantras, there needs to be many additions I'm sure, but I would like to contribute to manblunder in some small way because I have immensely benefitted from this site and from the grace of Ravi JI, we need to democratise Tantra/Sadhana , therefore the basic manuscript containing the 51 mantras can be found here https://drive.google.com/file/d/15X4IBoHBYDLgDMUUXqkmgzRTR3HuN6si/view?usp=sharing , please correct me and help me contribute more, Pranams to you, Tivra Ji, Holiest guru Ravi ji(whose grace is always upon us) and all the Mahasiddhas present here on manblunder. after correctly finishing the kamakala kali MahaShodnyasa, with your permission I will take on the task of creating the MahaShodanyasa of Srividya as well