Dear Pandya ji that is a magnificent Sadhana your gurudev has given you. For future reference, it is better to keep it a secret. It is very sacred and it also may reveal a lot about you. We don’t want people knowing this much about until us until we know their intentions very well. Often, only you and the guru should know.

Namaste Pandya, is this guruji who initiated you into both mantras, the Shri Sriram ji who is mentioned in the mantra initiations page you refered to before.

Namaste kaushik my dear brother , Yes, I understand your intention clearly now. You are not asking for ordinary ākarṣaṇa or vaśīkaraṇa. You want to experience the śṛṅgāra-rasa and magnetic śakti of the Devi itself, particularly through Kāmakalākālī and Mahā Lalitā Tripura Sundarī, as described in the teachings by tivra nd jothi...For this purpose, I would not approach it as a technique for controlling another person. The better approach is to awaken the inner śakti, beauty, presence, confidence and devotional attraction of the Devi within oneself...A simple direction would be: 1. Kāmakalākālī — transformation: Begin with devotion to Kāmakalākālī, surrendering personal desire, insecurity and ego into Her. Contemplate Her as the power that transforms desire into divine śakti......2. Lalitā Tripura Sundarī — śṛṅgāra and সৌन्दर्य: Then contemplate Mahā Lalitā Tripura Sundarī as the embodiment of divine beauty, grace, love and ākarṣaṇa. Rather than trying to attract someone, meditate on becoming receptive to Her srngara-śakti....3. Mantra: If you already have a properly received mantra/dīkṣā for either Devi, use that mantra rather than mixing several attraction or vaśīkaraṇa mantras. Let the japa be accompanied by contemplation of the Devi’s form, radiance and loving presence.....4. Śṛṅgāra-rasa: After japa, sit quietly and allow the feeling of beauty, love, sweetness and divine presence to arise naturally. Don't force a sensation or try to manufacture an experience......5. Jeevakarunya and conduct: Keep the heart compassionate and the conduct pure. If the aim is the Devi's śakti rather than ordinary vaśīkaraṇa, then attraction should manifest as presence, grace, warmth and radiance, not manipulation......So for the 4th, I would make the practice primarily a Kāmakalākālī → Lalitā Tripura Sundarī contemplation, with surrender and śṛṅgāra-bhāva, rather than adding conventional ākarṣaṇa/vaśīkaraṇa prayogas. That is much closer to the intent you have described.... i hope kaushik u got ur answer before 4 september for what u r looking for , take care my dear....

Namaste dear mr. Thank you For your time and answer. But what i want is to experience this sringar rasa or power of devi as described by jothi agaval and tīvra ji. On 4th is krishna janmashtmi and kali jayanti also known as mohini ratri there is something i want to test with sringar Sakti/ rasa or power ? Of devi for personal magnetism and attraction, of course there are other mantra and kavach for akarshan and vashikaran but I'm not looking for them. I hope i was able express my intent for you to understand. What I'm looking at is kamakalakali and maha Lalit tripura Sundari.

nesh ji after ur anugrah two times i asked my guru (who gave me two mantra initiation of shaiva parampara sharabh raj and shakti parampara chandi durga mantra , two different mantra's one for morning 1.5 hours and one in evening for around 45-50 minutes ; the aim is to get complete blessing of shiva+shakti as soon as possible nd to keep quiet all the very huge bad karmas obstructing my success) ; both times when i asked my gurudev is brahmacharya neccessary sir fr this sadhna , both times he smiled... i didnt get his message behind both this smile nd also it is not good to ask one things again nd again nd irritate him... but by reading ur message i felt i should take this both mantra sadhna seriously... till now i was jst chanting it with bhava ki i ll do 8-9 mala everyday nd miracles will happen nd i not need to control on anythg , bt after reading ur msg i think i should take it more seriously to get fruitful outcomes nd need to become more strict ; plss continue to guide us sadhak like u nd surya's suggestions are always welcomable thanks a lot

dear kaushik Sringara is generally used to please a devi , its jst a representation jst like devi idol , we do seva of idol like we buy new clothes for devi maa idol , we use perfume , we put srngara in front of her to not only please her bt by doing this we r assuming that idol is living devi nd we r doing yathasakti seva of her ; in case of men devata prasad/bhog itself is enough , no matter what it is , jst offer it to devta for eg. today i ll eat manchurian/dosa , i ll first offer it to shiva becoz fr me he is my father , and while offering it say "he shivji apka diya hua bhog me khane jaa rha usse pehle aap svikar kre" in case of men deity ths is enough no need srngara is required unlike devi maa... hope i m able to explain /satisfy u dear

Dear Pandya ji, i am not so qualified to be answering as I am only a baby to this realm. I can tell you that you must remember that the mantra is the devata. It is alive. it has its own being and persona. It is settling into your subtle body and adding to your store house of karma in its own way, per itself and yourself. This is serious, serious stuff. Practically speaking, per your questions, it varies by the mantra and the lineage or source. The guru must tell you if it’s a tantric mantra. I am not sure about Vedic or Bhakti yoga mantras. Some mantra saktis will only require extra japa to expiate and compensate the loss of ejaculation. It involves several powerful sakti. Some mantras are fine if the ejaculation is in a yoni. Some mantras can seriously hurt or kill you if you ejaculate at all while doing the Sadhana, depending on your karmas and your atman’s will. I’ll say it again, this is serious stuff, especially as you make further progress. It is no joke. Especially in the paths of tantra or Kaula, you walk a razor’s edge. In modern times, people find or receive mantras from these paths without understanding the scenery and the seriousness at all. It is really very serious. Generally speaking, at the very least, you will have to chant a lot more if you regularly masturbate, to get some success with the mantra. I know some people who do this. Sometimes grace and karma will save them and they get it anyway. Never count on those. Life is too short and precarious. Control your senses and you will succeed tremendously. And it will be so much more satisfying in only a few months imo. Pandya ji if you are here and asking these questions, that is a good sign to begin with. I feel you will succeed. You are still young too. You’re on the right track on many levels, just be strict with yourself and do good karmas to change the qualities of your samskaras.

Namaste krishna ji, Śṛṅgāra is it a quality or power of devi? Or it just describes a emotion that devi is capable of performing. Thankyou for your answer.

Namste krishna ji, tīvra ji and other learned sadhka, can some please tell me about the quality Śṛṅgāra - is this only possessed by women or do men also possess it. If not what is parallel of this for men. Thank you.

Namaste my dear kaushik first of all i ll warn u from fake guru in india as i m purely businessman i had faced too much loss earlier; in my bad times i meet many of ths so called fake gurus ; who take money nd provide mantra nd sadhna ; which themselves only not done so plss be aware if someone is asking money from u fr mantra ; coming to ur question tivra chandi mantra is not open secret dear nd i m not allowed to share nd u ll also not find it on internet ; it is safe with kaali/mahakali sidha upasaka/acharya/guru ; the bst thing u cn do is contact some purohit of ur known nd ask them if they have any relation with any of this kaali mata sadhakas ; trst me true kaali maa sadhak ll guide u in a manner that almost in very short duration of time u ll get ur desired results ; bt my humble request is dont find kaali maa upasaka frm internet/youtube ; also if smbdy asks money u stay away frm them ; although its costly bt as i said earlier u cn visit kamakhya there u ll find lot of tantric who don't ask fr money but gives u proper margdarshan regarding what devi form nd mantra u r looking fr ; first try to find kaali mata upasaka frm local priests nd known purohit's contact ; if u dont found any later on u cn choose to go kamakhya ; bt in either scenario jst stay away frm ppl who r asking fr money they r simply fraudsters ; who is upasaka of mata kaali will not ask money becoz if he had maa kaali sidhi why he want money frm u he ll get it frm maa itself , all the bst ahead dear till then u cn continue with navarna mantra as well as tivra chandi stotra u have , hoping soon u meet ur desired margdarshaka/guru/acharya , take care my dear