My understanding is that once you enter the temporal stream as a physical body, whether a saint or avatar or anything at all, then you gain a viewpoint of that temporal experience, even if you also can hold the subjective expression or feeling or experience of the eternal. As a result, if you plant a seed that you know exactly, without fail, will one day in say for example 10,000 years will grow into a perfect tree, still you feel the temporal restriction and have a feeling that you'd like to see the tree standing there now, not just know it will be there in 10,000 years time. This comes from the residue of the very experience of temporality. If you knew also, for example, that if 100,000 people would come and water the seed now, that it would then grow in 1,000 years instead, but you see that the people won't come, that they aren't ready, the same effect of quality of feeling due to temporal restriction. To my understanding it is something like this. Inherent in the experience of time is a certain qualitative feeling of restriction from within that embodied viewpoint, such that even a perfect being cannot escape feeling the restriction from within time.

All in all, Jesus and Vallalar both not managed to build kingdom of God in the planet and were bitterly disenchanted with people in the end... WHY? , ask you, the reverent Gurus, please answer!

Please study this article. https://srath.com/spirituality/spirituality-in-jyotish/ Each Devata has an energy and Ishta Devata is the energy that resonates with your soul which can lead to Mukti. But people simply find it difficult to feel these energies and they were offered dhyana on the image of a certain deity. Benefic planets (grahas) represent good gods and malefic planets like Rahu, Saturn (Shani), Mars (Mangal), Sun (Surya) and Ketu. There are tantric goddesses of 10 Mahavidyas which are related to a particular graha. But this is elementary school. Guruji Ravi wrote a good text "Guruji Speaks" https://manblunder.com/articles/guruji-speaks

Hi I was told by jaimini astrologer ishta devta is looked from the navamsa chart 12 th from AK as it is house of liberation i see that few people mention that it is being calculated based on AK and AMK from main chart can someone with knowledge on this please clarify Thank You

This website is a partner in spirituality. Spirituality is often rooted in religion but can also exist outside of it. Bhakti or devotion grounds and suppresses our ego. Devotional practice can sprout spiritual awareness and lead us to look inward and gain the answers to our sufferings and purpose of our lives. Let seekers decide what is best for them. We are not proselytizing any belief systems but are offering paths that may lead towards success. It is up to each individual to seek the path that best fits their needs. Everyone is free to contribute but let us be conscious of not overstepping the boundaries and intentionally hurting other beliefs. Definitely this is not a religio-political forum. Thank you for your understanding.

Namaste Dear Agni. Thank you for the deep insights on all subjects that you have touched upon. Darkness is dispelled when streaks of light emerge from the sun before dawn. Likewise, ignorance is dispelled with knowledge and the grace of the Divine. As many have suggested here, we should probably just stick to spirituality and not promote or demean any religious beliefs or be critical of any country or culture etc. Karma is universal and also affects countries, people, culture, religions and probably even the lokas. The ways of the Divine Mother Mahāmāyā are mysterious and beyond our comprehension. Saint Vallalar and many others have put forward their insights and have guided seekers in myriad ways for their material and spiritual upliftment. We must understand that the needs of seekers are complex and most people seek material, rather than spiritual benefits. Eventually, all paths will lead towards spirituality when the seekers look inward and seek deeper insights. I am certain that all the advice offered by realized souls such as yourself, Tivra, Tripuraghna, Jothi, Dylan and many others will continue to benefit seekers for long. I sincerely request and encourage everyone to help genuine seekers find answers to their questions and let us guide the beginners, as well as all others on their spiritual journey to the best of our ability. Once again, I offer my sincere thanks and request that we post guidance to help the seekers.

Namaste. My fascination for Supramental yoga is from last 25 years. Mainly from reading Mahamahopadyay Pandit Kaviraj Gopinath's concept of, "Akhand Mahayoga". Individual soul reaching liberation is Khand Mahayoga. Anand Mahayoga is for collective liberation, where Akhand Maha Guru with Guru mandal, is working for uplifting all. They are working on descent of Divine on Earth. When The Divine Mother descents on Earth, everything will change. Maharishi Arvind & mother Mira's Supramental yoga is on similar principles. Vallarar's revelations explains this concept in more details. All of them are saints of Hinduism. At present many people are working silently on Descent of Divine. Ascending to Supramental state is main requirement for this most enlightening experience.

In other words: if you can teach a wild beast not to eat people, it would be the great progress already. But to teach it to eat carrot and not to pile bark from trees with its claws... it would be the waste of time.

The Teaching of Vallalar is extremely high. But I guess it is an university of religion - the most of people, helas! , need not a high school but a kindergarten, like me. (My opinion isn't an official one of this site. I am a simple seeker)

I wrote my thoughts as I was asked to by a user of this website. It is not my aim to debate anyone. I have zero ego. I wish and pray the best for all. Here are some final clarifications. As this interferes with my sadhana I will not be posting here again. First of, I consider Vallalar as one of the greatest saints. But citing material progress as closeness to god is not a very good path to take. Vallalar emphasized ahimsa and abhorred the practice of eating meat. The countries that are the most developed materially, eat meat and literally factory farm meat. Christian countries in Africa are still in major poverty. Many monotheistic faiths were completely wiped out (including the Yazidis recently) China being completely atheistic has a high(er) standard of living. Secondly, most people do not really understand what Nirguna brahman means. Nirguna brahman has nothing to do with the lokas. Vallar's description of Arutperum Jyothi is transcendent and immanent. Arutperumjyoti is formless (arupa) and present in all beings. This formless, attributeless pure compassionate arutperumjyothi is what similar to the definition of nirguna brahman. Anandi anantham suddham shivam shantham nirgunam. Finally, What is the liberation? Every path has its own viewpoint on the final emancipation but experience is key to realize the truth. Vallalar said a deathless body. And what will one do on attaining that. Showing supreme compassion for all life. This is possible only when the "I" vanishes without ego. So in a way this is nothing but the moksha states of the Upanishads. Again, it is not my desire to debate. Merely to educate people. Best wishes to all. May everyone attain their goal. This will be my last post here. Best wishes to all seekers. May the infinite guide you.