I will leave some verses from Vallalar for reflection by people in general: "Lord! Thou gave me the Ambrosia of Knowledge which I took in and grew in concentration but to the astonishment of Brahma, Vishnu and Indra who bit their teeth in jealousy." (MEI ARUL VYAPPU - Stz 14). ‘‘These gods like Brahmas, Vishnus, Rudras and Indras and founders of religions and philosophies like Buddha and Maha veera make a play of Mind with a little or partial Light of Grace received in them; they play like honey-drunk children. The much impeded principles or gods of Brahma, Vishnu, Rudra, Mahéshwara and Sadasiva impeded by the thick obscurity of impurity and Ignorance (i.e., in the lower worlds), the other impeded principles of Bindu the point of Light that spreads into the heaven, Pranava Brahman the heaven of the Sound of “Om” (i.e. Overmind proper), Parai the Cosmic Shakti (of overmind), Paramparan the cosmic Lord (of the overmind)— these lesser truths of manifestation I come to know to be not more than a dust particle at the outer edge of the sandal of the Divine Feet who plays in the equable Truth-World of the Diamond Light of Knowledge (Sudar Mani Podu— i.e. the apprehending Supermind) so as to remove all dangers. I glorify the state of the biune Feet of the Supreme and universal Lord’’. (TIRUVADI NILAI - Stz 3)"

Namaste Ashwin. It is true that Vallalar was helped by Murugan in a part of his journey, but the grace of Arut Perum Jothi was already protecting him since his birth. Vallalar mentions in his works that when he began to evolve a lot and get closer to Arut Perum Jothi, numerous beings that people usually call "Gods and Goddesses" tried to harm him, but the grace of Arut Perum Jothi protected him. Swami Vivekananda has also mentioned the "jealous" nature of these beings and that they do not want to see people above them. They help people only with the intention of making them subordinate. They usually use Yama and Kama a lot to harm people who are evolving too much. This happened with Siddharta Gautama too; they sent Kama and Yama to harm him, but a Naga serpent (a being half serpent and half human) wrapped itself around Siddharta Gautama and protected him. These hybrid beings called Nagas or serpents have helped humans many times in history and they were essential for humans to reach the point of cognition they have today; they once interacted directly with humans and transmitted knowledge, but the darkness within humans made them use this knowledge for evil; so Nagas moved away from humans for good. More details on this issue are in my comment below where I unmask "Lord Krishna".

Rajarsshi Acharya. You can present arguments to counter the knowledge in the two books I have linked because they are the path I follow and my Lord is Aruṭperuñjōti Himself. I would like you to present arguments against everything that Thiruvarutprakasa Vallalār Chidambaram Ramalingam has written in his many works. If he is a fraud, then so am I because I follow exactly his path and his Lord is my Lord. Vallalār has said in his work "Arutperunjothi Agaval" that all religions are false. And I am explaining why he said this. I have already discussed almost everything on this website, including the various Kramas like Shri Vidya, Kali Krama, Kubjika Krama, Vedanta, Siddhanta... but by following the path of Vallalār we know all these things and much more. I have started discussing on this website about subjects that are not written or have been burnt. Hinduism deals a lot with spiritual knowledge, but little with material knowledge because the beings portrayed in the scriptures are spiritual and not biological either. So I started talking about the material side, which is all about biological technology and engineering. The central idea is that both things exist. Rajarsshi Acharya, I believe that your astonishment is more because you follow a more spiritual path, but both things exist. It is possible for a person to be highly spiritual and accept technology and biological engineering. Believe me, there are absurd technological things in the Material Universe and they do not nullify spiritual knowledge... on the contrary, they complement each other. I understand your astonishment, but it should be easier to believe in advanced biological engineering for those who believe in the spiritual realm. Both are true. In any case, I have already achieved my goal, which was to "disturb" the illusion of many people and challenge what they believe to be the truth.

Namaste Agni ji. Quoting this part from a link, which explains, what you are trying to explain about Arutperunjoti, is huge & quite fantastic. "The key of Grace is necessary to open the lock of fetters and it has been distinctly styled as vast compassion. In other words, one has to offer his compassionate life to God in order to get himself transformed as God." Guess, no one has imagined of getting transformed as God. This is indeed a Supreme aim of life. It's not easy to understand, hence so much of confusion to seek clarity from you, as you are on that path. It's a sincere request to continue guiding us. https://www.vallalar.org/English/VORG000000016B

Something very important about "Lord Krishna" who has many temples and devotees in India today. If someone or Krishna himself appears to you saying that he is the supreme being, do not believe him. He actually thinks he is the supreme being because he also has "mental problems" and is sick; but he is not evil; he is just childish and sick. And in short, the story of Krishna is as follows: Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, because they are also not supreme beings and are also sick, create many problems and in one of these problems they had the idea of ​​joining forces to create Krishna. When Krishna appeared, he said to Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva: "You three promised, in the law (līlā) that you created, that if someone stronger than you three appeared, you three would worship that being; now you three and anyone else who is less strong than me will be forced to worship me." And that is how Krishna managed to become the leader of all these beings who are sick; he is not a God, but he is powerful; the most powerful of these sick beings. Because of Krishna's "mental problems," he believes that he is the supreme being. Do not believe him. If any Guru tells you that he is supreme, do not believe him, because that Guru has been deluded too. Krishna and everyone below him are not Gods and Goddesses; they are sick children wielding extreme power. They are so powerful that people think they are Gods and Goddesses; but they are not. They do horrible things because of their innocence and "mental problems"; they feel jealous when someone is evolving too much in spirituality. Out of jealousy of evolution, they have sent Yama and Kama to harm Siddharta Gautama, Aurobindo, Mirra Alfassa, Vallalar and others. They do not want to see people above them, but subjugated and below them. They may even help you evolve to be subordinate to them, but never above them; they will do everything to harm you so that you cannot ascend above them. These sick beings compete with each other. A person, most of the time, just gets rid of one of them to be subordinated by another stronger one. They are like powerful children capturing each other's "slaves" or "toys". These beings that many call Gods do not like you... they only want your affection and have serious mental problems. Brahma never overcame his jealousy of Krishna, because he was widely worshiped in the Vedic era, but today there are only temples of Krishna everywhere. These beings with mental problems are very interested in humans because no other being has the capacity to love like a human; when a human loves one of these sick beings, these beings gain more strength than they already have. I did not want to say these things from the beginning because it is something very difficult to digest. Before telling these secrets, I tried to direct people to the "God" that would be less harmful to them, but ideally these beings should not be worshiped. The best advice I give to people is to follow all the guidelines and apply all the tools provided in the two books that I posted the download link for. I feel sorry for the people who have been deceived until now; but it is a very difficult "system" to escape from the one that people are in. If you were able to read what I said and dedicate yourself to the books I mentioned, it is certainly the result of the effort of many lives. Use all the information I have given for your evolution and be careful who you tell it to; because fanaticism and greed for money are everywhere. If you look at all countries based on what I have said, you will realize that 99.9% of people are deluded or subjugated. Even atheism is a form of subjugation because it prevents human beings from knowing what they really are. You who have read this are very lucky. Use the information wisely and for your evolution. As I said, rely on the two books I mentioned.

Dear Rajarsshi ji, I would certainly appreciate if we don't indulge in any slugfest and criticism of individual commenters even if we do not agree with their viewpoints. The arguments can be made to counter the viewpoints based on our knowledge and understanding and even pramāṇas if available and known. If not, it is better to let it rest. It is an established fact that many tantras have been modified over the ages with many inserts. This is also the main reason not to follow any books, but to follow living and established lineages and their traditions that have stood the test of time. Realized souls such as Gautama Buddha, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Lahari Mahāsaya and various others also ignored various norms, religious beliefs and instead followed and taught what they experienced as the solemn Truth. Those who see value in the teachings will follow and those who don̍'t, will follow their own charted paths as is the established norm. Also, it would be a great blessing if you can please share your knowledge on the Kāḷī krama sādhana associated with Guhyakāḷī, Kāmakalākāḷī, Pratyaṅgirā, Siddhilakṣmī etc. that can be of immense help in guiding aspiring and initiated sādhakas in their spiritual journey.

Agni, and most important point! Giving all the fairytales, fictional stories and all the imaginary claims does not prove that you have reached somewhere supreme! And all that big big claims that you see my entire life and that i have not achieved anything and my end and all that, so sorry to say but i must admit they exactly sound like new-aged fraud baba jis! ‘Cause i never claimed here ever that i have done this and that or never have i listed my achievements or anything at all; on the contrary you are constantly claiming that you are some messiah or something and that you will redeem us all and if you won’t then we all be doomed! We are all in the wrong track and you are the only one who is in the right track and you are 21st century Noah! Please be REAL!

To all those who do not believe me, believe in all the knowledge contained in these two books and I will post the download link. Even if you fail to achieve the goal in this birth, simply putting into practice all the knowledge contained in these two books will ensure that you can continue in a later birth without deviating. These books deal with things that are completely true and the only path that will set you free. I implore you to follow this path. EVERYONE, without exception, is allowed to follow this path, no matter their astrological data. All the tools and everything you need to do are in these books. The authors' effort in translating Vallalar's teachings and songs into English was the will and compassion of the divine itself. Here are the two books: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10KGVyhlS_XzHpwYzV4i2cocMusjsLq_C?usp=drive_link

I’m in no need to fill my head with such weird fictional awkward stories. When one person do not have any hard proofs or references or evidences of the things they are claiming and they feel threatened and feel such existential crisis then they give such big long lectures full of strange imaginative stories and fairytales. Requesting you to be ORIGINAL and AUTHENTIC please. I think we can do better without such fictional theories with no trace or touch of reality. It’s almost like you are almost in a parallel Marvel or DC comics reality or Marvel/DC universe! And i’m stunned to see you are taking name of such a great saint Thakur Ramakrishna and saying all the idiotic stuffs you can sum up against him; WOW! Are you even eligible or authorised to question his authority? Maybe you are another avatar! May be you need a doctor or a professional help! I’m super surprised and shocked and really sad seeing people like this also exist who harbour such delusions about themselves, almost scitzofrenic! As if you are the new age Noah with your fictional boat to save us all, the mighty superior being and we all including the great saint like Thakur Ramakrishna are all like inferior creatures in your comparison! And i thank you for saying such blessed words that i will have a fate like Thakur Ramakrishna, i really pray i do, i pray your words come into reality, and i pray really even if i become a small speck of dust of his feet then my entire life, all my past lives will be blessed and i will reach the ultimate bliss. I pray to Thakur that he blesses you with a clean pure mind - free from your delusions, your invisible prison!

Namaste Agni Ji, sorry if my questions seem vain. I was under the impression that the deities we worship would guide is to the Grace they could not themselves achieve, and not 'trap' from Jñānasiddhar Tīvraji's comments about the same. What about the Murugan and Cidambaram NatarAja forms worshipped by Swami Vallalar?