Yes. in saparya padddhati by sri n subramania iyear ravi ji's order is followed.I have something to say about right handed conch. in fact this is not available commonly. which one available is not conch. this is other type of molluscs. conch will have two or three groove like folds inside end called as nabhi which is not present in so called right handed conch. original right conch may range more than 30thousands . any problem if normal conch used? or available false right conch can be used?

1) Why we use conch for samanyargha? Here mandala is surya mandala. Surya is adhipati to jala (water). Tattwa of Sankh (conch) jala. Hence we use conch. It is better to use right conch (means dakshinavrutta shankha i.e. a shakha having right aavruttam)2) am - agni mandalam - dharma prada um - surya mandalam - ardha prada mm - soma mandalam - kaama prada

Vardhani Kalasam:In some texts it was suggested to place vardhani kalasa on mandala drawn with trikona, vritta and chaturasa only. Vardhani patra, samanyargha patra and visesharghya patra subtly represent sasta chakras in human body and agni, surya and soma mandalas. What is the meaning of these symbols? The concept of drawing mandala is follows like this:Square represents - futureCircle represents - pastShatkona represents - presentTrikona represents - Icha, jnana and kriya saktiBindu represents - Santa/Santyateeta kalaHow these mandalas are to be drawn? It was also suggested to draw all the mandalas with matya mudra.Why mula mantra should be recited eight times? You may observe while proceeding further to next mandalas mula mantra will have to be recited seven times only. What is the difference?Here, asta lakshmi kalasam is good to use as vardhani kalasam. Lakshmi also means all saktis/wealth etc. (asta aiswryas) and it represent of this universe i.e. vishnu, siva, brahma, oceans etc. Since it represent asta aiswaryas symbolically we worship this kalasa by reciting mula mantra eight times.Why to use dhenu mudra? This mudra is for making the water in kalasa as amruta. (dhenu mudraya amrutee krutva)Samanyargha:Here, right conch is better to use for dakshinacharas.19.5.a) Worshiping outer squareIn fact, the sutra for worshipping the square is like this.“Chaturasre, vayu, eesana, agni, nirurity konesu, madhye dikshusa bala shadangai sampujya”Meaning: In square, worship vaayu kona, then eeasan kona, then agni kona, then niruruti kona, then , madhye dikshusa (=1. Central part of all four sides of the square or 2. Madhye = bindu, dikshusa = central part of all four sides) with bala shadanga.4 klīṁ netratrayāya vauṣaṭ | netraśakti śrīpādukāṁ pūjayāmi namaḥ || = worship east and west at a time.4 sauḥ astrāya phaṭ | astraśakti śrīpādukāṁ pūjayāmi namaḥ || = worship south and north at a time.Alternatively,4 klīṁ netratrayāya vauṣaṭ | netraśakti śrīpādukāṁ pūjayāmi namaḥ || = worship bindu.4 sauḥ astrāya phaṭ | astraśakti śrīpādukāṁ pūjayāmi namaḥ || = worship east, west, south and north at a time.(I prefer, first one)4 uṁ sūrya maṇḍalāya arthaprad dvādaśakalātmane śrī mahātripursundaryāḥ pātrāya namaḥ || - Here, the word Samanaghya may be included before paatraya namah: In fact, after worshipping soma mandala on conch, a chaturasra (square) is to be drawn on water in conch ( only bhava) and has to be worshipped that square with bala shadangas as done earlier. This is important and concept behind this is to save the water in conch from external forces.Why we have to recite mula mantra seven times. Subtly it conveys sapta chakras. One has to visualize sapta chakras while reciting mula mantra instead of counting with fingers/numbers etc.(panchadasi and sodasi upasakas can worship this mandala instead of bala mantra)

Yes, what Raviji said is absolutely right.

This is the correct one aṁ agni, uṁ sūrya, maṁ soma. This is with regard to ॐ . Similarly, Bālā mantra is also associated with these three maṇḍala-s thus.aiṁ agni, klīṁ sūrya, sauḥ soma.

Sequence is ok. but i am talking about am with surya, mam with agni and um with chandra. beeja for three mandalas. which one with whom?

I think what I have written is correct. aṁ uṁ maṁ represent ॐ and here aṁ uṁ maṁ represent three maṇḍala-s in sequential order.

Inn some texts it ismam bahnimandalayaam surya mandalayaum somamandalayabut you mentioned mam somamandalaya. um suryamandalayawhich one is correct?

Love your articles very much. May Kapalini bless you abundantly,sir !

1. As per point six (6) of your text, it was said that a vessel used for preparation of visesharghya patra is known as kaarana Kalasa.In fact, karana kalasa is a separate patra and used to keep naagara khanda (ginger pieces) mixed with saindhava lavanam. Patra used from karana kalasa is three eyed coconut shell as it represents lord siva. This is the reason why we do puja to this patra with pancha siva mantras.2. Ref: Point (7) of your text: For visheshargya patra it is better not to use copper vessel. We use milk with other ingredients as visesharghya. As per sastras, if we keep milk in a copper vessel that will be turned into (or equivalent to) intoxicated drink like wine etc. 3. In concluding para of your text, it was said that mudra means fingure gesture. Infact it is not fingure gesture. Mudra means some type of eatable made up of mamsa etc. ( I cannot explain you clearly. You have said about this in one of the discussion point in your web sites discussion forum- Pancha Tattvas)4.Actually, panchamakaras are not related to patras used in navavarana puja. Panchamakaras are ingredients used in preparation of various arghyas etc. This point I have dealt in one of the discussion point in your web sites discussion forum - Panch Tattvas.5. Shatpatras used are Vardhani kalasam, saamanyargyam, visesharghyam, kaarana kalasam, guru patra and aatma pata.6. Sub patras are: Shakti patra, bhogini patra, budhi patra.Total patras including sub patras are nine a symbolism for navavarana. (?)7. Bali patra is not considered separately though it will be used after maha naivedyam.