Dearest Krishna , the point is not in verifying the authenticity of anything , the point is that when a genuine teacher is asked that they will give the answer needed to bring the sadhaka closer to clarity. Even if the answer is "I don't know", from the mouth of a genuine guru, it will somehow reveal so much, because this is the action of such great beings. I will tell you first hand, when questioned this way, they may even be very unexpected in their responses in order to illicit a response that will then cause inner clarity. Their workings are subtle, complex, and beyond surface comprehension. And they cause changes not otherwise possible. Moving forth. Yes, Mahidhara did compile this text, but i believe he himself alluded to omitting and slightly modifying much from his own text in order to prevent misuse or improper revelation. Typically this is what happens , and yes there is a factor of timing in which things like this are to be revealed to the world. There are windows which do open in our world, which allow great revelation to happen in short periods. So public knowledge can be beneficial to humanity in these periods. The point is not to suppress information. But the point is that if anyone is approaching these types of teachings, they must be given directly the right teachings of lifestyle, approach, sadhana [diksha first and then consistent practice for a long period, an effective pranayama for their practice, whatever other principles are necessary for them] But especially through tivra's comments and the general direction of the community, everyone believes they can just practice any multitude of mantras uninitiated with no lifestyle change and attain results. This dries up and damages the body and makes the mind chaotic. There is a great deal of harm in this. There must be a change in a better direction for the actual benefit of those who don't know any better. There is an opportunity to genuinely transform lives with this platform rather than allowing chaos to take root under the guise of spirituality.

Thank you for looking out for me and the suggestions for improvement. I shall certainly consider the advice and ponder upon the same. I would like to point out that some of the advice provided by Tivra may not be received well by everyone, but there is no question that he is a well accomplished sādhaka and his benevolence in sharing deeper secrets of tantra sādhana have benefitted quite a few serious aspirants including myself. I am personally very grateful for all his contributions and look forward to more. One need not connect with everything that is stated or shared on this platform. Even the recent comment of Tivra discreetly describes the mantra that awakens the full power of the Kuṇḍalinī. Those who understand the Kādi and Hādi mantras may be able to discern the coded information. Those who question the validity of his statement need not subscribe to his views and instead stick to their own traditions and belief systems. Those who are willing to look further and explore deeper can ponder upon what is shared. Further, it has been the endeavor of Shri Ravi ji to share the deeper secrets of the Indic philosophies with the world that led to the creation of this website and various books published by him. We are simply doing our best to maintain the same and keep the continuity in our own ways through our chosen paths. Shri Ravi ji being an erudite scholar and practitioner, has provided insights into many practices and has taught the same to thousands of individual aspirants. All of his writings will be preserved and maintained for the current and future generation of seekers. Lastly, when we talk about authenticity, I would like to ask what is the source of Śrī Bāskararāyas Varivasya Rahasya that has become a textbook of Śrī Vidyā? Are these his own personal insights or of his gurus? Also, all the Purāṇas, tantras etc. were once oral traditions that became manuscripts at a later time. There are thousands of variations of mantras and stotras often attributed to the same source and further there are many variations in the practices of various sāmpradāyas and kulas. Who is authentic and who isn't? What to choose and what to ignore is best left to the discretion of the individual sādhaka to ponder upon. To quote another example, Mahidharā states that after practicing a couple of sādhanas and upon the insistence of his son and other śiśyās, he undertook the effort to compile all available sources of mantra sādhana to create the magnum opus called mantra mahodadhi. He clearly did not practice the sādhanas of all these deities but went ahead in publishing the same in his works without clearly quoting references for every verse and mantra. The references to rudrayāmala tantra are also unverifiable as the full text of the original document is considered lost. You may also observe that he has not provided the source of these mantras and to what original granthas they belonged to for all verses. It is our good fortune that his works were preserved through the generations despite the hostile conditions that prevailed during these times and the negativity and secrecy that remains to this day! Also, what is the source of Śrīvidyārṇava tantram and for what purpose did Yati Śrīvidyārṇava compile this manuscript when he did not have any aspire for anything and led an austere life? What was the purpose to compile the greatest compilation of mantras that has still not been decoded - Siṁha siddhanta sindhu? Can we even begin to comprehend the efforts and difficulties that ācārya Gosvāmi must have gone through to compile and preserve this compendium for the future generations that is still lying the archives of the Rajasthan Oriental Library? Honestly, why are we so against preserving and propagating these scriptures? Should we let them simply disappear? Who gave us the right to keep this information discreet and hidden from the world and judge who should be eligible to receive the same? I recently learnt from a scholarly priest that he stumbled upon an old notebook in a store selling used books. The muslim store owner noticing the priest offered the notebook free of cost stating that he had obtained it from a vendor selling paper by weight. This old notebook contains a rare unpublished manuscript that is now published in a printed bound book format and shared with erudite scholars with a secrecy clause! I had the good fortune to see the manuscript and offer my advice on some aspects. All I wish to state is, let us learn to tolerate our differences and live amicably. Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu! 

Let us not be critical of Krishna as he has put in lot of efforts to maintain this website, how many people are ready to invest so much time and energy to constantly churn up articles from many sources and keep things moving? We should look at the intention. Mr Tivra has given many secret mantras and techniques to us, so it's not right to be so critical. Again I understand that comments may not be to your liking but argue it out. Proper intellectual conversation will be fruitful for all as the conclusion cannot be disputed further. The reason for the article was to emphasize what our lineage says and the gist of the Indian philosophies in general and also to have a blue print for budding aspirants, as for advanced sadhakas they are grounded in the teaching of their lineage. Never imagined one small post would create so much ruckus. I understand that people have strong opinions from all ends, discuss it and not fight over it. If you don't agree say you don't politely and let it go.

Even Ravi Guruji had faced such attacks for some of his articles, but that didn't stop him from posting helpful knowledge. Today everyone appreciates this site & his selfless sharing of knowledge. In my interaction with him, he was always open for more knowledge. He knew much more than what he posted in his articles. Following the same, when Tivra ji, Tripuraghna ji, Jothi ji, started posting rare knowledge, it was the Divine Mother's blessing only. Once one of them said, when he comes here, replies to the questions, which question to reply is all pre-decided by Maa. They have always wanted to share knowledge that was kept secretive under sects. When Tripuraghna ji was active, he did mention that within 2 -3 years such secrets will be made available here. With changing time new knowledge gets revealed. Please note, I prefer MahaKali to Kaballah. I love Her. But would also like to know important pts of that system. Some of us must be doing japa of Lord Shiva's Hadi Vidya mantra. They can share their experiences about the effects, they have felt. Being an unlocked mantra, effects must have been visible. Do share your experiences. Please remember, This is Maa's Leela. She is testing us to see if we are worthy of Her blessings or not?

Dear Mr. Abhishek. Sometimes the commenters do not wish to disclose the sources. Let us be mindful of the same and respect their privacy. Even adhipatis of various mutts in India do not disclose the secrets that they're sworn to protect and ask devotees to follow simple worship and avoid any form of tantra for most people. My sincere advice to you and to all seekers is - Please DO NOT ACCEPT any mantra published by anyone on this site or any publication for that matter, but accept the same when handed down to you by a competent guru. This is the suggested norm prescribed in all tantras. If you have unshakeable faith in what has been given to you with proper initiation, explanation and guidance, then follow the same to the best of your ability and efforts. Exploring this website or any others may lead to confusion if it conflicts with the explanation already provided to you in your lineage. You need to be mindful of that and only if that is acceptable to you and permitted by your guru, should you indulge in exploring the same. The intent and the efforts of the contributors to this website is to provide a deeper insight into all aspects of spirituality if we are competent enough to do so. Once again, what is provided here should not be accepted at its face value but may be considered if permitted by your lineage and upon obtaining the explicit permission of your guru. Thank you for your participation and references and I hope you find what you are looking for with the explicit guidance of your guru.

Krishna, the goal of my rudeness is to shake you out of a particular way of thinking. With the time you have dedicated to your various sadhanas, if it were focussed in the right place, you could have attained to such heights. In my opinion you are an extraordinary individual but misguided. But there is a mentality and an approach which must be taken with seriousness by those who seek such fruits as siddhi or revealing the light of guru tattva within one self. I have met Ravi ji and as such I hold him in immense reverence, more than I can possibly put into words, and so I show zealousness partly as a reflection of the high regard in the way I keep him in my heart. Regarding the nature of meeting any other gurus, I must say, most human beings who attain to a very high state prefer to remain hidden unless they want to be found. A great guru will seldom make themself a public figure. Sometimes beings like Ravi ji do emerge, And you will know they are genuine by the way they transform the lives of so many individuals! You must be able to see the harm in that you, as a moderator of this platform, are bringing the attention away from such teachings and towards an individual who is not causing the transformation of lives but rather the enablement of mind and confusion and lowly approaches to spiritual life. It is evident in those who are following him the changes that are not occurring which must occur for somebody on this path. On the note of bringing up someone's age and skin color and where they live, I would only ever do this to prove a point, harmful as the display may be to me. Believe it or not, I do wish the best for everyone here, but harmful actions can not be tolerated without a reaction. Finally, to speak on how one would be able to find a guru for themself, would be to speak on how one should be if they want to be accepted by such a guru. The best way is to change one's lifestyle to which they are an invitation to such transformation already. This is not a simple thing and one has to rid themself of the desire for entertainment and satisfaction first, but by anyone who is genuine it can be done and it brings all sorts of knowledge and experience on its own. But this is a conversation to have on its own, in its own separate thread. I wish only benevolence and clarity upon all who are here on this platform, no matter what severity must be shown to help others.

Sorry Krishna ji, after that editing nothing remains to be said from my side.

Krishna, it is absolutely unheard of for a teacher of any type to spill secrets and mantras to the public in the first place, and then conceal the sources of such secrets, whether self revealed or otherwise. It is, however, absolutely commonplace for teachers to conceal these secrets and knowledge in the first place and not to spill it in the first place! This is very, very ridiculous. You can not mix recklessly spilling rahasya mantra of any category, and say it is the same as keeping it secret.

Dear Kuru Sandhyasa, thank you for your comment and mature advice suitable for all sādhakas. We certainly welcome your insight and advice for the betterment of sādhakas and the effectiveness of their sādhana. If you would like to provide more details of competent gurus who are willing to help sādhakas irrespective of their color, nationality, age, gender etc. realize their material and spiritual aspirations, then please do so and this information would be very useful for sincere aspirants. I agree that the website has transformed slightly in the last few years since I took over the task of publishing mantras and stotras. More than 95% of the content on this site still bears the mark and excellence of Shri Ravi ji. Those looking for spiritual wealth will not be disappointed in studying the articles and books published by Shri Ravi ji. All articles written by others bear the signature at the bottom of the article. Less than 3 or 4% of the content may be attributed to my ignorance and incompetence in explaining about mantra śāstra. Very strangely, it found the admiration of Shri Ravi ji and he allowed me to post the articles as I deemed fit. This is not something that i aspired to, but it is the least I could do as a seva to Shri Ravi ji who guided me and became one of the most important figures in my life's journey. I do not know if you had a chance to meet him and be in his presence. He certainly was a great siddha puruṣa whose glance could transform our lives. For an extremely ordinary person like me living in America, to write about mantra śāstra with no prior knowledge or pedigree, is unthinkable. I dedicate and write in the name of my gurus and by the guidance of the Divine Mother. Yes, I have practiced many mantras over a couple of decades and this could not have been possible without the guidance of competent gurus like Shri Ravi ji, Medhayoga Krishna ji and Shri Ramesh Kutticad ji, all of whom I am blessed to have as my gurus and guiding principles, besides others, who also initiated me into other mantras and various other disciplines such as Kriya yoga etc. It is my endeavor and a promise I made to Shri Ravi ji, to help all aspirants irrespective of their race, age, gender etc, to provide guidance related to mantras and help them as much as possible. I do not intend to be a guru or guide but serve as a pathway that leads them to such competent personalities or endeavors, should one approach this path. In other words, just a lighthouse. Success or failure is based on one's efforts, karma, guidance of the guru and the grace of the Divine Mother. Rest assured, we are not here to misguide or judge anyone. Regarding Tivra being a teenager or an adoloscent or white, black, yellow or brown, or even an extraterrestrial or extradimensional being, is irrelevant. What is of essence and importance is his immense knowledge and insight in tantra śāstra that makes him one of the greatest living masters. Let us not forget that great scholars thrice the age of Śrī Ādi Śaṅkarācārya fell at his feet and adopted him as their guru. I personally do not regard AI or its users as incompetent in providing spiritual advice. So even if Tivra were an AI bot and not a real person, I am absolutely okay with it. He is still a person I would take a bullet for - anyday, anytime, anywhere! I respect your choices and suggest that you extend the courtesy to others as well.

I frequently visited this platform and even recommended to others. People should have unshakeable faith in their ishta devatas. I asked source of the claim that all mantra, tantra etc. are blocked, and it seemed as if irreversibly. Even that was deleted. Now how does asking source become distasteful and personal is beyond comprehension. I saw someone here asking “are we wasting time in sri vidya” (not precise words, but to this effect). So this is the effect of recent discussions.