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MANBLUNDER
October 11, 2013 02:52 PM

There is no way we can draw a comparison to Bhisma. What I have said here is related to normal human beings. Further, there are bound to be differences between any two Sacred Scriptures on the explanation, though, the essence of their revelations remain the same. The views expressed are not mine, but that of Sacred Upanishads. Normal human beings surely cannot decide their death, whereas great sages and saints can decide their death.

Mohan Ram
October 11, 2013 02:35 PM

If what you said it correct, in Mahabharath why Bhishma who had the Vara of Ichcha Mrithyu waited for the Uththarayana to come and then only passed away. Was he not aware the concept that you have mentioned. Could you quote some document to substantiate your views.- - - P.Mohan Ram

Govind
October 11, 2013 09:21 AM

Great,Thanks for clarification sir.

MANBLUNDER
October 11, 2013 09:11 AM

Liberation is of four types: Sālokya, co-existence with the Lord in His world. Sārūpya, attaining the same form as that of the Lord. Sāmīpya, proximity as that of the Lord. Sāyujya, absorption into the Lord Himself. The first one progressively leads to the last one. But the thought process of identifying the self with the Lord (sāyujya) leads to fast track emancipation. Mukti is too a wider term and is often mentioned as cessation from transmigration. It is a gradual process and directly related to one's level of devotion. As long as duality persists, liberation cannot be attained. When duality is dissolved, you become Brahman. Whatever you have mentioned are different stages of one's Love for the Divine. These stages are certainly related to different stages of liberation. In the state of sāyujya, your merge with the Divine and you are no reborn. Yes, they are Self-realized ones, but not yet merged with Him except the stage of sāyujya, which is the final stage of liberation. All these stages can be experienced while living with our gross bodies.

Govind
October 11, 2013 08:56 AM

Thanks Sir.I have a another query.What about those souls who attained various Mukthi?( like sArUpya ,sAmIpya,sAlokya). Are they are self -realised ones? or they attain Mukthis with great devotion to our Lord even though they are not self-realized.

MANBLUNDER
October 10, 2013 08:31 PM

It depends upon the Guru. It is said that Guru and Brahman are the same. But Guru with uppercase G should be used with great respect. Not everyone whom we come across is Guru. Guru will not accept his disciples' karmas. Karma has to be endured and there is no escape from that. With the able guidance from Guru one can stop accruing further karmas if he or she surrenders to Brahman. How to surrender to Brahman is taught by a Guru. Danger times are the manifestations of one's karmic account. Even Brahman does not stop the effects karmas in one's life.

Govind
October 10, 2013 07:42 PM

Ok.Brahma Gnana is another word for Self realisation.Understood.How is it possible for Gurus to accept Devotees Karma and save them during Danger times. Can any realized Souls can do this for their devotees?

MANBLUNDER
October 10, 2013 07:30 PM

Brahmajñānā is knowing Brahman or the knowledge required to know Brahman. Brahmajñāna does not differ from person to person and it is the same for everyone. When it is coming to the knowledge Brahman, everyone is same and there is no difference between Guru or his disciple.

Govind
October 10, 2013 07:19 PM

Sir, I heard Shridi Sai baba has given Brahma Gnana to many of his devotees.Is that mean they will get same Gnana as Baba? I feel Disciplines should be one step down of Guru even though they are realised souls.Please advise .

MANBLUNDER
October 08, 2013 05:48 PM

It is perfectly fine to listen to recitations. If you want to recite, follow the audio CDs where in recitals are rendered at moderate speed. You can look for the one recited by T.S Ranganathan.