Namaste Herodion ji, can you please me tell how tīvra knows all these and mantra of other sampradaya, i never seen someone speak with this clarity as spoken by many realised people, how do they do it so logical and scientific? I haven't seen such clarity even in scriptures. What vidya is tīvra ji and other venerable sadhak are using to give such clear answer and such highly advanced mantra which i think can't be known simply from scriptures. I also been very curious the same question you asked why haven't any attain sadhak talk on these angel, yahwa, Jesus and other gods of west. It always puzzle me maybe because they don't come in our system or maybe other reason idk. But nonetheless i always be curious to know about the truth of world. Hope some day i get to know the truth and how these different religions came in existence.

Dear Herodion, why are you trying to create a toxic environment, everything has a limit, what if TivraJi, or the shakti's that are with him are annoyed enough to show you what they can do?, after all you are the one who is creating an issue here, there is a saying that goes like, "be careful what you ask for, you might get it", what if one of the shakti's of Tivraji finally has had enough and decides to "bite you", after all you are not only hurting Tivraji but also the people whom Tivraji values most dearly, also remember, even a lower entity sadhaka can know your real name and your past, then do you think it is difficult for TivraJi to find out about you?, and do one thing, since you are a true Tantrik then reveal the real name and details about ME let alone TivraJI, then I'll fall at your feet if you succeed hahaha

showing the mantras that you have not realised is killing, how exactly? someone who compiled sharada tilakam, rudrayalamal , brihat tantra saar, would(could) not have possibly realised and awakened all the mantras present in them, that would be practically impossible, and No one is claiming the mantras as a Upadesha, I don't like arguing with your entourage because you people don't like logic, at the most what you do is, cherry pick one or two things and twist the point instead of accepting/trying to understand the comment.

Then stop barking and threatening bite.

Kashik, they themself and others have posted the books from which they have taken this information. It is all book reading and internet research. And also a lot of speculation.

Krishna, you do not know what is a siddha. The person you are speaking about, on December 2023, used one of their many other accounts to join into a conversation and defend themselves as an alternate persona of Jothi. All of these accounts pretending to be different people for what, I wonder. Is this the behavior of a siddha? Is it the behavior of a siddha to also hand out mantras, promote guruless practice, while also promoting Kabbalah and enochian magic and reform on the solid rules of well established tantra shastra? Is it the behavior of a siddha to make themself a public figure and then run away whenever any responsibility or accountability is proposed to them? Tell me this then. You speak of immaturity but you're living in a fantasy land. You yourself have gone mantra shopping from so many lineages for so many mantras all online, and now you present the same thing on a greater scale to uninitiated students who are not accomplishing anything they could be accomplishing from a genuine sadhana. As previously stated, You avoid accountability and responsibility , We called your bluff , You protect someone who's identity is unknown to you yet known to us (how ironic) , You mislead beginners with what you are propagating and promoting , and you even attempted a 'sting operation' which the other admins who were not in agreement with you warned us about. Why have you fallen so far, hm?

I respect differences in opinion. It helps us all learn and progress as sadhakas, which we all are! Thank you Dear Chakravarti. I value your opinion and it is absolutely okay to differ.

Dear Herodion, you and your entourage are contradicting themselves, Tivra ji is a mahajnani, who knows the deepest secrets of the shastras, in fact it was Tivra ji who revealed the unpinning methods and explained the Mantroddhar verses to us, I want to point out this contradiction on one hand you call Tivra Ji a fraud who has hidden agendas, and your team has accused that Tivraji and Agni, Jothi, etc were all the same accounts, and on the other hand, you are afraid that a tantrik(hinted at Krishna JI) will perform Maran on you and use the seal Tivraji has given hahaha, if tivraji is a fraud why are you afraid of a fake seal given by a fake master(acc to you), now one more thing, Tivraji or the manblunder team has claimed/or published a mantra to get a "girlfriend", although even if they did, it wouldn't be wrong, the statement of yours just shows your ignorance of Sri Vidya , and the rashmi mala mantras, because one of those mantras is to get a "wife"/"girlfriend", now let me tell you one more thing, A Real Tantrik doesn't need your name, photo, etc to perform prayogas, your energy signature is enough, because it is deities who do the work not postmen, may god give you wisdom, and whether you like it or not, YHWH and Brahma are the same and Shukracharya is the "God" of the islamic faith, may you find the truth through your Sadhana, and if you haven't progressed enough to know, then maybe you should focus on your own Sadhana instead of trying to be the messiah, and remember TivraJi knows more than what is humanly possible in one lifetime, and Look at the CEOs and founders of all the top companies, you can see jewish dominance because of the grace of their Kabbalaic entities, similar to how Jains in India are very well off due to the blessings of Sri Parshavnath and Padmavati devi, so seeking wealth, love, etc is not a wrong thing as long as you are not hurting anyone else through shatkarma, so please educate yourself a bit more and do some more sadhana. Adesh Adesh

Dear Herodion, You and your like are extremely childish and immature. You probably don't realize that revered Tivra is a great Pratyaṅgirā siddha. Remember this - "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread!". There is also a popular quote in Hindi that you can google - "Haathi chale bazaar, kutte bhauke hazaar" (हाथी चले बाज़ार, कुत्ते भौंकें हज़ार)" which roughly translates to "When an elephant walks in a bazaar, thousands of dogs bark!" I assure you, when there is a paśu, there is also a pāśa. My suggestion to you and your associates has all along been to target me instead of someone of the calibre of Tivra. You cannot approach the regent without tackling the attendant at the gate. I urge you and your friends to please continue your tirade against me and witness the benefits you reap. Lastly, Shri Raviji has entrusted us with some responsibility, and we remain committed to fulfilling the same. I fully acknowledge that it is futile to teach sheep about stars. 

Bam, stand down. You know absolutely nothing about the opinions of the Manblunder collective, I assure you. Judas was also a hand-picked disciple of a great spiritual master who would turn to heresy to preserve his teacher's love in eternity, was he not? On the other hand, Ashvatthama, the apparent betrayer in the Mahabharata, of whom Ravi has a relic which still remains in the lineage, is our forefather, is he not? Do you even know him? Rasit, since you're something of a historian, look up my name again and read my comments; last year, I have traced the names of this lineage. Can you understand why one would take on disdain of the ignorant in the name of dharma and respect for his guru? Then ask me no more why I joined Kuru and why Amargi and Chakra have joined us. Who here are "many against one" and who here is Judas? Me and my brothers under Raviji are those outnumbered, who stand against the mob. Finally, Krishna. I'm very happy Chakravarti called your bluff before I could. It is a mystery to me why your beloved Tivra, to whom you faithfully defer every time and whose writings you have directly published as articles, has been absent from the Initiation page - yet you made me this offer in complete bad faith. This is terrible optics for you. I have given my e-mail already. Given the things we feel and broadcast as sadhaks, is this not sufficient, Krishna? Do you really need another anchor? What do you even want to do with my personal details, anyways - and what tantrik have you heard of who would hand them out? You'll feed my name to the cats and burn my photo under a bridge. Or perhaps use the alleged killing seal which your "great teacher" has given to everybody on the Internet randomly and without discernment. I know that you debate in bad faith and that sometimes you need more than words to get your point across. There is a single presence on this website whose grace allows him to publicly declare his identity and he is Shri Raviji, to whose light I pray you all return. And, Krishna, if this comment will somehow escape censorship, I would like to remind everyone of Tivra's claims so they may form their own opinions: the universe is 70% tamasic and at 100% it will be wiped out; Enochian angels can burn karma even quicker than Kali; one should approach Kabbalah before Shri Vidya; all of us reincarnate because we love the "fallen Brahman" (who's also allegedly YHWH); this same fallen Brahman has locked our DNA so certain mantras are blocked and only 1% of Shri Vidya power can be accessed; YHVH collapsed in 2022 and the angels are working on rebuilding him... I could go on. This is so far not only from Raviji's teachings but also from the experience of every single attained sadhak I know. By the way, do you know any, or is this all just LARP for you which you might as well do on 4chan/x/? For me, this is a virtual ashram. Its doors have been opened for me by Santoshji, and it is my sacred duty to preserve it against invasion and blasphemy; a few others feel this as well. We are sadly outnumbered, but let Raviji's will be done. And to the audience, my advice is this: don't believe everything you see on the Internet and don't start doing mantras just because you read them in the comments of some blog. There are some who can offer initiation or at least guidance. In one-on-one conversation, as is the way, as Raviji was doing. Manblunder has sadly become a place where people look for mantras, pick one or two or 30 which sound good and then they begin practicing them. This isn't a supermarket or eat-all-you-can. Raviji published hundreds of procedures, yet he always initiated people into them. Never did he say in a comment: "yes, go do this Durga mantra and you will get a girlfriend and money and friends and long life". And this is sadly the attitude of the modern Manblunder consumer: a mantra shopper, who sees his life lacking and desires the siddhi's mundane applications before the real attainments. But, brothers, as Sadhguru said: if you can't make this on this earth, you won't make it in heaven. For making money and getting girls, God has given you a brain; for illumination, God has given you a soul. To summarise, I am not backing down. May clarity be brought to everyone.