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Srivathsa rao i
September 23, 2014 08:58 PM

Sir, I accept...your point...that..taking any philosophy is up to us,but we have to take the path of known...jgnani.....krishna is considered as jagath guru,by all hindu mithology,1) Krishna only said that,there exits two separate things in this world,purusha and prakruthi,there is no prakruthi or (kriya) in brahman...and brahman is nishkriya...so,what is ksahmir shaivism's stand here...2)If kriya is there in brahman...what exactly is that kriya?or which kriya?jgnana in brahman is nothing but his (brahman's) personality that is sat-chit-anada,...but what about kriya?3)Coming to current of water,one day that water will rest...that time there will be no current in water....so current cannot be considered as water's attribute....similarly,on moksha...there will be no kriya in brahman...so brahman is nishkriya....if there is kriya in brahman in moksha,according to kashmir shaivism....what exaclty that kriya which will be there in athman in moksha.?4)Jgnana in moksha,nothing but bliss...which will be there in athman....Pls answer for this Sir........

MANBLUNDER
September 23, 2014 05:40 PM

In Hinduism, there are many Philosophies. These are different spiritual paths to one Goal. The seeker should choose & follow the Philosophy which goes with his own mindset. If the idea of Inactive Brahman appeals to you, follow Advaita. If Active Brahman goes with your mindset, follow Kasmir Shaivism. These Philosophies are just the helping tools according to the different kinds of seekers. Nothing is wrong or bad but yes, one should choose a path which satisfies his mind and of course, once chosen, one should follow it to the core with absolute faith.According to Advaita Vedantic approach, Ultimate Reality, which is Consciousness or the Self or Brahman, is pure Knowledge. It is static or inactive or niṣkriya. But according to Āgamic Tradition, Consciousness is knowledge (jñāna) & activity (Kriya) in One. Śiva & Śakti, Jñāna & Kriy

MANBLUNDER
September 22, 2014 10:49 PM

It is better to have this mantra initiated. It is one of the powerful mantras.

jagannath srilalithe
September 22, 2014 09:58 PM

ravi sir, should one be initiated to chandi mantropadesha before chanting? or can we chant chandi navakshari without initiation?

Srivathsa rao i
September 22, 2014 08:31 PM

Sir,1)you accepted that brahman is inactive,but according to kashmir shaivism....brahman is active....how is this possible?2)After moksha,there is no power,only...brahaman state....which is called as swayam prakasha...sat-chit-anada will be there...so ,that power...dissapears...as dream dissappears when we wake up.....so that power...or brahman's power which kashmir shaivism says is mithya just like dream...and brahman is the only reality........that is advaita...3)krishna only said...in geetha brahman is inactive....how abhinava gupta,,,pretend this in his commentary on bhagavath geetha,,,,,in support if kashmir shaivism...because in kashmir shaivism...brahman is with acitvity???please answer for this sir.....

MANBLUNDER
September 22, 2014 02:39 PM

Mukti is different from Mokṣa. Only latter leads to cessation from transmigration. Brahman is always inactive. Only His Power is active. After Mokṣa. there is no need for anything, as we are becoming One with Brahman. But in the case of Mukti, it is only temporary cessation from transmigration. There is no question of sustaining liberation. It is only a fraction of a second moment of merging individual soul with Brahman, who is always inactive.

Srivathsa rao i
September 21, 2014 09:40 PM

Sir,yes....I accept that...we have to work hard to get liberated....but after getting liberated....there is no need to work....to sustain liberation...so, liberation is inacitve state...or advaita state is inactive state....it is not active state,SO BRAHMAN IS NISHKRIYA OR INACTIVE....if it active state...we have to always practice to keep liberated...which is against to the definition of liberation.....which means...free from all.....what you say for this sir?

MANBLUNDER
September 21, 2014 09:31 PM

Whatever the path we follow, we cannot attain Liberation without sādhana. Without practice, proper configuration of mind, intellect and consciousness cannot take place. Śakti-pāta is not something that we practice. It is the reward for our Love towards Him. Even Advaita clearly says that knowledge alone does not lead to Liberation. Knowledge is an essential and supportive part of our path to Liberation. There is no difference between Kashmiri Savaism and Advaita. Both are non-dualistic in nature. Liberation is not a easy process; we have to work hard.

Srivathsa rao i
September 21, 2014 08:53 PM

Sir,I have one question,please answer......1)my opinion is,through SAKTHI PATH ....we cannot get permanent....effect.....for example,......a)one learn bharathanatyam....where there is shakthi and knowledge...or knowledge with activity....if we leave the practice for few years...his efficiency in baratha natyam will reduce.....b) a weight lifter...lifts 85 kg of weight,,,,,it is knowledge with shakthi...if he leaves the practice ,,,,for few months...he cannot even lift ....65 kg.......SO,WHAT WE CAN CONCLUDE IS .....what ever knowledge we get through shakthi ,or KNOWLEDGE WITH ACTIVITY ,is decreasing with TIME.....or its efficiency is decreasing with time AND ONE DAY IT DOESN'T EXIT.... we have to practice regularly to avoid decrease in efficiency......So,knowldge with activity is not brahman....brahman is inactive knowledge......or in other words......NISKRIYA JGNANA.....which will never perish.or decrease with time..and always present......SO,ADVAITA TELLS TO BECOME NISKRIYA KNOWLDGE...WHICH IS NOTHING BUT MUKTHI...,,,,,,because mukthi is heighest level...then after..we want nothing.....but here in kashmir shaivism....even in mukthi we have to practice shathipath...to preserve the efficiency...of that knowledge.......which means...even mukthi is not ULTIMATE.....we have to work...to preserve over existence........which cannot be mukthi...because...mukthi is liberation ......but ,in kashmir shaivism.....to keep liberation...we have to work....which is for away from.....truth.....Sir,please reply...for this...I am waiting for your answer.......what you say for this?

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