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ArjunKrishna
March 19, 2015 05:36 PM

There are 2 types of Mukti- Jivanmukti and Videhamukti The jiva attains freedom (Jivanmukti or moksha ), the moment he realizes the TRUTH, even though he may have to continue to live in the body for a short span of time because of the actions (Karmas) accumulated in the past. Just as the wheel continues to rotate for some time due to its prior motion, even after the potter has ceased moving it , in the same way the BODY OF THE JIVA CONTINUES TO EXIST FOR SOME TIME AFTER THE ATTAINMENT OF TRUE KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE OF THE PAST ACTIONS OF THE BODY.Thus no new Karms are accumulated and earlier ones begin to loose their power.But final and complete liberation is attainable only after death of physical body.This is VIDEHAMUKTI. Videhamukti is also called kapala mukthi.In this state complete liberation is attained after freedom from all kinds of bodies - subtle & gross. According to samkhya philosophy the distinction between liberation and bondage is ONLY PRACTICAL .THE SELF IS NOT BOUND AND IT IS THE EGO THAT IS LIBERATED .SELF IS BEYOND BOTH LIBERATION AND BONDAGE.IF THE SELF DID ACTUALLY BECOME BOUND IT COULD NOT HAVE FREED ITSELF EVEN IN 100 BIRTHS BCOZ REAL BONDAGE CANNOT BE DESTROYED.It is the PRAKRITI that is eventually liberated .Lord Krishna has said that in actual fact SELF is neither bound nor liberated nor it is reborn.Bondage ,liberation and rebirths are ATTRIBUTES of Prakriti.It is so delicate that once the PURUSHA sees her in her real form she does not confront him a second time. When a soul leaves a person (Mostly Jivanmukthas) at the time of death through skull,through Brahmaranda it is called Kapala Moksha or Videhamukti.Videha mukti means leaving the body permenanatly.Such a persons soul after following a life of jnana marga merges in to paramasiva ,otherwise called mahasunya. Jivanmukthas are peoples who attained liberation/moksha while alive.After gaining atma jnana or self realisation by the blessing of a Guru, he/she raises his/her kundalini to sahasra.The consciousness,also called soul exit the physical body through Brahmnrandha and travels to Parabrahman /Mahasunya /paramasiva through TUNNELS of past samskaras..Here at mahasunya, the knowledge about this place called mahasunya makes the soul liberated.Then the soul return backs to the body through through TUNNELS of past samskaras and enter back into the body.HE IS NOW LIBERATED AND CALLED JIVANMUKTHA.i,e Liberated while living.Again the Knowledge about mahasunya is Liberation.And it is possible only when soul travels through Brahmarandra outside his body.The soul comes back to the body again through Brahmarandra.He can take out his consciousness and move into mahasunya at his will any number of time during meditation. When such a person dies i.e his soul exit the physical body through brahmarandrha for THE LAST TIME ,other wise called become a videhamukta.It is also called Kapalamukthi acoording to difference in tradition.So the state of Jivanmukthi is real and person continues to exist till the complete enjoyment of Prabdha Karma. Parasurama,Vyasa etc are all Jivanmukthas.They are chiranjivis. Jivanmuktha means a person who have the knowledge about Parabrahman. The jivanmuktha lives in physical body only to experience the remaining karmas.They later become Gurus and their will is equal to that of Paramasiva.

Aum Ravi
March 19, 2015 12:47 PM

Dear Govindan, Samadhi state is different and kundalini position is different. Both are not related. Samadhi is mano vyapara and kundalini is sadhana vyapara. Once the kundalini crossed the sahasrara i.e. when it come out of Brahma randhra then it is known as kapala sidhi.

Govindan
March 19, 2015 12:09 PM

Sir Thanks for reply.appreciate your effort.one more question.can you let me know position of kundalini with respect to these different types of samadhi.will kundalini will reach sahashara only when he gets kapala siddhi and not during nirvikalpa samadhi?

Jayanth Chandramouli
March 19, 2015 11:39 AM

Yes you are right karma plays an important role for a person to get liberated. So when the individual self is merged with supreme self , how can there be existence of that person . As he has become one with the Brahman. That is the reason we can logically deduce that this point should be the end of our journey unless the divine has other plans for us live with people. These type of articles and discussions help us understand more about what is right and wrong. As most of the aspirants are beginners like us. Hence we need to have discussions to learn more.

Govindan
March 19, 2015 11:12 AM

Hi JAYANTH , I'm not knowleadgable person like you or Aum Raviji.but still I stick to my point divine grace plays a role but it is karma which decides if gross body can drop off or not once kundalini reaches sahashara.jivanmukta is person who has liberated but still he lives in earth until his karma is exhausted.

Aum Ravi
March 19, 2015 09:31 AM

Dear Govindan, A) Nirvikalpa Samadhi is different from Moksha/Sidhi. Let us understand what Samadhi is?. There are three types of Samadhis. 1) Savikalpa Samadhi 2) Nirvikalpa Samadhi and 3) Sahaja Samadhi. 1) Savikalpa Samadhi: Here manas will stay without any chalana (movement). i.e. nischala. It will not disturbed and get involved on only one aspect. It will merge in that issue only. 2) Nirvikalpa Samadhi: Here, manas will stop working and disappear. Then only Atma will glow. Target of Yoga is this stage. 3) Sahaja Samadhi: This will experienced due to Brahma vichara. This is the Atma sakshatkara sidhi. (Above were asserts of Sri Sri Sri Chandrasekhara Saraswati Samiji) Not only great Adi Shankaracharya, so many other sages and rishis experienced Nirivikalpa Samadhi. Hence, nirvikalpa Samadhi is different from Moksha. If a sadhaka is bestowed with Kapala sidhi, then we can say that he merged in the Brahman. B) Yes, everyone gross body is different but NOT the subtle body. The shakti in all is ONE and the SAME. Please recall the conversation between Sri Adi Shankara and Chandala. Kundalini will activate only in one way in all. The only difference is how a sadhaka utilize it during the process. C) Sidhi will depend upon the right sadhana. Nothing to explain much here. Hope, above cleared your queries

Adyaksh Kalajith
March 19, 2015 08:23 AM

How many in this Kali era even thinks of practicing any kind of Sadhana. It is becoming rare. It is nothing wrong to gets excited on getting some Anubhava, only the Guru has to correct his disciple in this regard and show what is what and direct him in the right path and assessing the stage in which the disciple is in, as described in the scriptures.

Jayanth Chandramouli
March 18, 2015 10:53 PM

Just for thought. We cannot compare ourselves with SankaraCharya. They were actually on a different level from us. Also when Grace of the divine mother descends on a person at full force. It is only logical that his journey ends. I say this on the basis of the article written about shakthipat in this website and many other series. Unless there is a divine will the journey should end at this point. I May be wrong. But would like to learn if the views are not right.

Govindan
March 18, 2015 08:47 PM

Respected Aum Ravi Sir I respect your comments but same time but I have a query on your article about soul departing the gross body once kundalini reaches sahashara. Adi Shankara has experienced Nirvikalpa samadhi many times and his vivekachudamani clears explains about Nirvikalpa samadhi.But as per your article, souls would reach brahman once kundalini reaches sahashara. How was that possible for Adi sankara to come back from samadhi and explain the experience in vivekachudamani? My intention is not to hurt you but it is my genuine query.Everyone body is different and kundalini does not act in same way.one may get siddhi and one may not get anything.But are we 100% sure that everyone in sri vidya upasana will get mantra siddhi? Apologies if i have asked any wrong questions as i cant agree fully your feedback. Thanks

Govindan
March 17, 2015 08:52 PM

GurujiWhat is difference between focussing on ajna chakra and sahashara chakra while meditating? From your articles,i see to reach Turiya,one should focus on sahashara.At same time, for mantras to dissolve inside mind and reach ajapa stata,focus should be on ajna chakra and not in sahashara chakra.Is my understanding correct?