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Sriram
June 29, 2015 06:49 PM
Spirituality or Self Realization is not a ' Technical process' where we say that only a particular percentage of devotion or effort or egolessness will lead a person to success.Realizing our own real nature is Self-realization. The seeker seeking himself!! Shiva playing hide & seek with Shiva!!During this phase of 'seeking' the seeker leaves no stone unturned. He goes to guru, comes to know about Mahavakyas, thinks & ponders on them, reads Upanishads etc. etc. All this process is sadhana for realization & this is the phase where Ego is to be kept aside. Learning something is possible only if you admit that yes, you want to learn& you surrender to the teachings of your teacher (try to fight your ego deliberately)No doubt, nothing can happen without His own Sweet Will. When the efforts ripen and of course He Wills, Self hidden inside, reveals Himself in His full glory, grace and bliss. Shiva finds Himself!!!When Self shines, everything else...the remaining ego, the games playing mind, the seeker himself, the process of seeking..... all gets swayed away in the flow of Deep Bliss & Ananda.Nothing else remains... Just Self prevails... Our own true nature... The Essence Of Our Existence...Shiva Himself.
Adyaksh Kalajith
June 29, 2015 01:49 PM
Do you have any problems in understanding plain English? I clearly told you that I'm expressing only the opinions of self realized sages and they form the basis of my perspective. Again, It is directed towards a particular person and only he has the right to assent or dissent based on his perspective. Who are you here? it's up to the author of this website to moderate me. I don't require your assent or dissent to do what I feel like doing. I don't give a damn about your views. If you feel like trolling, there are millions of website out there. Why are you wasting your time here?
Jayanth Chandramouli
June 29, 2015 01:13 PM
Completely agreed that ego is necessary for self realization, but to what extend this is required, is the question? If the ego let free and is allowed to do whatever it wants then where is focus placed on? Meaning, is the ego focusing on the body or the self?Can please explain how absence of Self realization is self realization, it will be helpful understand the this with a different perspective and your explanation. As you rightly say that when we want self realization all these aspects become immaterial as a person will not differentiate between the Brahman and himself. But to achieve that level of knowledge at the beginning of any persons spiritual journey is nearly impossible. Hence we need first control our ego, actions etc, as this discipline is necessary for taming the mind to achieve the consciousness that you have explained.
Gabriel Pradiipaka
June 29, 2015 12:05 PM
If all that is true, why are you expressing opinions on the subject-matter of Self-realization? That is called: Ignorance. And Ignorance is His Play too.
Gabriel Pradiipaka
June 29, 2015 12:02 PM
If the Self has to wait for us to nullify karma, Self-realization would never happen. That is not true then. That is only taught to people to calm their nerves. Ego cannot tolerate that he must not and cannot do anything for attaining Self-realization. This is the cruelest Truth that destroys all fantasy. As this is so hard, ego is given a human explanation about a process which is divine and beyond human understanding. All this is again "His Play". And His Play happens when He says "I don't want Self-realization".When He says "I want Self-realization", all those dualistic thoughts and explanations are vanished because there was never "a person" being different/separate from Him. Even if the dualistic thought about a man in bondage and a God in Freedom is retained, the immensity of the Lord is so Colossal that one cannot affirm that these trifles, viz. ego, unnecessary ego, karma, world, etc., can get in His way. To affirm this would be a massive contradiction in itself... and this is again His Play. Because absence of Self-realization is also Self-realization.
Jayanth Chandramouli
June 29, 2015 10:43 AM
Uncessary ego is a problem because it creates karma. Then we have to experience that karma to nullify it. In turns it becomes a cycle or rebirths. That's why to avoid this unnecessary problems we should be shed off ego. It you say that when we don't want self rerealisation it is freedom. Then the actions performed has consequences from which we cannot escape. So the so called freedom is limited. But absolute freedom of self realisation is beyond this as he does not accrue karma.
Jayanth Chandramouli
June 29, 2015 10:30 AM
When we talk about ego.only the necessary ego is required for self realisation and we should shed off all the uncessary ego. You can find more details in this website for details on ego. There is no contradiction
Gabriel Pradiipaka
June 29, 2015 02:06 AM
Because ego appears by His Light. If nothing can appear without His light (ego included), so how could ego be an obstacle in His way? That makes no sense.Ego is the worst enemy of ego. But this has nothing to be with Self-realization. When the Self says: "Now I don't want Self-realization", bondage shines forth. Next, when He says: "Now I want Self-realization", Liberation emerges. In the meantime, in the period between His saying "Now no" and "Now yes", He experiences the state of bondage, which is no bondage really but an expression of His Absolute Freedom. Because Self-realization is Freedom and absence of Self-realization is also Freedom. When He, the Free One, wants to play to be bound by His ego, etc., He invents all these stories about ego being the worst enemy, or Maayaa veiling Him, or Satan doing this or that, etc. All these stories are like the ones told by a grandmother, like the play of light and shadows. May He enjoy them then!
Gabriel Pradiipaka
June 29, 2015 01:20 AM
There is contradiction here: Ego is not the enemy of Self-realization.
Gabriel Pradiipaka
June 29, 2015 01:19 AM
There is contradiction in this article.
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